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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio that now

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here's gene Steinberg so as you might

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expect here in the para cast we get

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letters lots and lots of letters from

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listeners and here's one that's kind of

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interesting I want to mention because it

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goes into the overall philosophy of the

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show and somebody we wrote because he

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hadn't participated in the forums for a

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while we have this email blast that goes

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out if you're a member of the para Casa

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forums that forum got the power cast com

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if you haven't participated in 120 days

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we send out a message saying why

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somebody works and then after 180 days

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we send another one out and that's it

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well here's a letter we get from one of

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our listeners and he says the forums are

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a direct reflection of the show I have

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grown to dislike the show very much not

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open-minded and quick to criticize

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anything that does not fit their

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paradigm very self centered and love to

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promote themselves rather than play the

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field very TD isn't frustrating he goes

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on now I wrote back and said okay what

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kind of promotion are you talking about

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and turns out that he I guess didn't

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like the fact that we were promoting

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your book well but it's funny here lots

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of people who have radio shows and may

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have something coming up special event

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they're going to speak somewhere they

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have a book coming out a magazine

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article anything like that they promote

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it

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another book about Roswell I could see

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you know it being tedious and all this

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but you know this is pretty monumental

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stuff no one's ever you know attempted

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to write a book that encompasses an

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entire category of mystery and I think

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it deserves as much attention as we've

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given it probably more and understand

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here Chris or Brian is not going to

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become a millionaire from a book about

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of mutilations Yeah right but you've

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been doing the book tour the book

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circuit basically online you've been on

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a number of radio shows you know you

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were on with Georgian upon

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coast-to-coast along with a number of

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shots I've lost track it's been 20 or 30

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already okay that's good

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well somebody's got to do it God knows

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my publishers not gonna be helping you

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think no I know well I'll tell you

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something I have written over 30 books

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technology books and I have to tell you

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that none of the publishers I work with

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and they were major publishers we're not

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talking about some kind of niche

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publisher major publishers the largest

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publishers in the country perhaps the

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largest in the world probably didn't

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spend a single dime on promoting any of

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those books and some of those books sold

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well I got into the top hundred on

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Amazon one time like 10 years ago for

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about three hours well I don't know when

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I was with st. Martin's Press boy they

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had a whole suite of offices of people

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that were helping me I was quite amazed

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at the width and breadth of their

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coverage I had a full-time media person

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PR person assigned to my book release of

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you know project and and you know I

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understand you know I'm with an

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independent self-proclaimed guerrilla

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publisher but you know it's important to

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see the importance of this book and at

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least in my mind you know correct me if

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I'm wrong but

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oh it's used to have a guy that helped

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out with some marketing and PR stuff but

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he died and no one ever filled his shoes

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so just kind of a an empty uh an empty

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death sit in there well I guess they

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have to wait for the medium to find him

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yeah well he's he hasn't been

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forthcoming that very many Ouija board

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sessions or tarot card readings and

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that's not gonna dial a phone and you

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know I mean I want to get on Bill Maher

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I'd love to get on NPR at the New York

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Times to review my book so I so much an

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author can do you know I'm not a self

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promoter I really don't like touting

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myself

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my work to be honest with you it's you

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know I do it because it needs to be done

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not because I want to make money or

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become some sort of you know a list

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celebrity in a field that doesn't

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deserve that category of participant so

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it's really difficult at times to

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reconcile the amount of work that went

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into the book and the amount of work

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it's gonna take to at least let people

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know that the book exists I mean at the

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very least that's that's all you know

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that's the best I can hope for

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basically if he gets minimum wage from

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this book minimum wage please think

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about all the hours and years you've put

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into this book yeah and if you count

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each hour you spent by what is it seven

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dollars and change now sir a dunk I'm

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getting paid pennies an hour and not

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even right let me go to the other item

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that he was concerned about and that is

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I guess he thinks were too close-minded

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and then I asked for the follow-up it

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was all about the fact that we keep

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talking about ultra terrestrials we do

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do we keep talking about ultra

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terrestrials I think what he means is we

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don't accept necessarily the fact that

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or the possibility that UFOs or

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spaceships we don't say that's a hundred

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percent proven but that's important and

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there's a good reason for it because

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it's not sure UFOs might be spaceships

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but there are other possibilities worth

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exploring so how does that make us

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involved deeply in ultra terrestrials

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well you know again show me one shred of

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unimpeachable unequivocal evidence that

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suggests that we are important enough

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for anything out there to come here and

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visit us okay you can't out all your

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ancient alien theories you want you can

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look at cattle mutilations and say that

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you know it's got to be aliens you can

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look at abductions which you know is

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very tenuous at best any sort of

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evidence there there is no evidence so

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until there is evidence that suggests

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that we're being visited by something

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off planet we owe it to ourselves and we

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need to be intellectually honest and

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explore all possibilities

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and of some of our listeners out there

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have a problem with that contact me out

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to class and I'll spank you soundly you

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might be spanking one of our guests this

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week we have a listener roundtable

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coming up and these are active

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participants from our forums at forum

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dr. Peric ascom one of them you've heard

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before he's known in the forum's as

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century and he's also known as Curt

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Collins who has done some incredible

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research into the cache Landrum case but

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he's also right now helping to maintain

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a Jim Mosely memorial site at Jim Mosley

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calm so we really appreciate it I

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basically set up the site myself and

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then I said anyone who wants to do this

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please do it

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Curt jumped in he did it yeah excellent

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the other guests we have is fellow whose

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screen name or online name is ho Jack

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which is not a play on the words of that

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Auto alarm system LoJack but ho jack is

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a talented web designer and in a very

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loyal listener to the show and we're

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happy to have him aboard and now the

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other guest is somebody who does stir

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the pot up a little bit from time way

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I'm his name in the forums is ufology

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and we also know him as Randall now

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Randall has taken the position that UFOs

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were likely spaceships and I expect he's

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going to argue vociferously about that

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subject but this the first time we'll be

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hearing him hearing the voice behind the

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words and I'm really curious to see

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exactly what he has to say I think I

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think Randall was on one of our

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listening roundtables about four years

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ago if I remember correctly no he never

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has what ever has

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oh boy this'll be good right and he's

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the only one in this crew who does not

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have a Skype connection uh I kind of

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whet algorri so maybe that's well being

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in Canada doesn't mean you're somewhere

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outerspace here you know maybe he's in

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the Yukon no Calgary where's that

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but you know maybe he does live in the

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wilderness so it's close to the Yukon

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closer than we are

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well that's true I don't know what we're

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close to oh by the way the guy who wrote

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that letter criticizing us he lives

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within 10 miles of me so maybe it is to

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know me is to hate me he's not saying

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anything Chris you see what's happening

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here all right so we're going to have a

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listener roundtable this week featuring

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Howe Jack century and ufology all this

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and we never know what's gonna happen

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next

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[Music]

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first game attack of the rock codes and

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it was a critically acclaimed success

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and now there is the coming of the

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protectors a former military

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intelligence man is contacted by a space

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woman in a dream a dream that turns out

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to be a nightmare because evil forces on

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our distant planet are planning to

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conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock OIG's

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and the coming of the protectors find

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out more at Rocko it's calm

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that's Rocko it's our Ock oids calm so

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here's what happened I was placing an

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podcast.com our first listener

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roundtable of 2014 here on the power

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cast and we have three of our loyal

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listeners one of whom you've heard on

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the show already east century also known

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as Kurt Collins and Kurt has very active

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in research into the cash Landrum case

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he also maintains Jim Mosely common

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going to ask him about that in a moment

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we have Howard Jackson also known as

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Howe Jack and we have I guess one of our

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most active participants is Randall

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better known to all our listeners as

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ufology in our last segment I suggested

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that ufology had never been on the power

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cast before turns out that's not true

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Randall was on the show during one of

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our earlier listen around tables on

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January 27th 2013 sorry about that

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now Randall tell us something about

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yourself but listeners who haven't heard

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of you before

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well I'm from Canada like your guest on

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another recent show there Chris

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Rutkowski who also got started in two

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UFOs pretty heavy around the same time I

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set up the website that I work with

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which is called the ufology Society

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International and we've got about 2,000

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members and 22 countries at last

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counting we are doing okay that way we

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started that back in early 90s and we

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were the first to have the UFO com

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domain name but then some domain name

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creditors told us it's just been a sort

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of a that's my thing my I work on the

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website I try to give free information

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about UFOs to people via the website and

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I've got Chris's new book up there too

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people want to visit they can pick it up

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there if they don't want to get it from

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Amazon directly we can get our 5 cents

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worth off of it from Amazon Randall tell

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me the story here okay you have UFO comm

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and predators took it out well this was

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back before the network solutions

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actually had protections on it and they

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sent

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male and it went to the wrong address

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and at that time I wasn't being in

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Canada I'm used to dealing with people

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directly and I go to their office and

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pay their bills this came and went to

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the wrong location by the time I got it

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it had already expired and I was fairly

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new to the whole thing and so some

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people in Malaysia got it and then some

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other person got it after that and now I

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think someone else in Canada got it and

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I keep trying to ask them about it but

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it's really odd because they haven't

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really developed it into anything no

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it's the kind of site that is basically

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just a placeholder it's basically a

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placeholder site they've done nothing

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with it and they just sit on it like

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squatters and I've even offered to pay

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all of their bills to get it back but

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I'm doing pretty good with UFO pages

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calm so maybe someday I can steal it

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back but you know what not so easy this

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time not so easy speaking of the web how

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are jackson tell our listeners something

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more about yourself by day i am a

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professional web developer I've done

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hundreds and hundreds of websites for

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huge corporations that probably don't

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want to be named I've done some work for

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the parrot cast and Chris's new site for

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stocking the herd and by night I am an

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avid listener of the parrot cast and

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follower evolving paranormal I consider

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myself somewhat of a skeptic but not no

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I don't like that word I don't believe a

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lot of it even though I've had my own

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experiences which kind of got me into

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this whole thing I just don't like when

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people claim to have the answers and I

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am also working on a documentary about

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the UFOs subject you are become another

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james fox huh something like that I've

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been into filmmaking my whole life and

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usually do things that are fiction but

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the documentaries seem to be more my

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interest these days

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I'm looking into documentary work by the

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way if you go to stalking the heard calm

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you'll see his fingerprints all over

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that one

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he really does great work and he did a

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couple of things for me too that turned

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out where he was just reading code and

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interpreting it and making things work

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that couldn't work really brilliant guy

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and he has worked on some major major

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sites that we can't name the sky is

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a numero uno when it comes to web design

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but before we get into talking the Curt

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again you mentioned personal experiences

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can you drop one or two on us sure

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there's really only two the first one

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and I remember the date because I wrote

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it down in my notebook when I was in

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high school

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1993 I think it was December 3rd and I

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was on my way to the I was at the bus

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stop and it was one of those days where

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as pretty early in the morning but you

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could still see the moon even though the

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Sun was out and I remember looking and

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I'm from Cleveland so the lake was to my

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right Mike

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you know could see the lake was about

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two blocks away and I look up in the sky

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and there was what I could best describe

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as it was a rectangle or a dash it was

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pretty far away and was glowing orange

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that's kind of odd and it was moving

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pretty slowly across the sky not making

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any sound I was just kind of watching it

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waiting for the bus when it stopped and

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started it was a hovering or good ten

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seconds it just didn't move at all

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all of a sudden didn't it fast right

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above my head and I turn around and

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there was two more of them now they're

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flying in formation going toward the

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moon and then the bus showed up I got on

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the bus and I had to go to school so I I

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don't know what happened after that but

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that this is one of those things that I

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couldn't explain is a helicopter or

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airplane or birds all right that's more

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than I can say I thought it was unusual

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so the the other one was probably a

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little more interesting this was in

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college and I was working in a computer

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lab during the summer and there were no

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students so I was just working in the

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lab and I was really into the x-files at

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the time and I was just kind of messing

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around on the internet and looked up the

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x-files I found a website the funk now

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is called the real exile was based in

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Australia I think and somebody has

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posted a story about the Apollo moon

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landing and how some ham radio operators

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had overheard transmissions from the

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moon that were censored and apparently

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they had found aliens watching them on

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the moon and I thought I'm kind of

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skeptical I nature said that this sounds

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like kind of a hokey story so I decided

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to contact the author of the article and

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we started doing our own research into

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it and I worked in a library in computer

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lab we had a

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government depository there so we had

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access to all sorts of files from NASA

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at the time and the more research I did

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into it the more all the names started

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matching up that were mentioned in the

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article then things just kept kind of

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getting interesting from there and one

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day the guy had been talking to through

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email gave me the phone I'm home phone

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number of one of the people who was

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responsible for this information it was

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somebody who used to work for NASA so I

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called the guy and I asked him hey I'd

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like to talk to you about this thing and

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he real quickly just said can't talk

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about then I hung up the phone all right

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no big deal

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couple days later a person dressed in

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full military blue from the Department

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of Defense showed up to the floor I

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worked on I went up to the front desk

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and asked for employee records on

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somebody who apparently never actually

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worked there so the military guy said

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thanks for your time he turns around

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starts walking out the door look

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straight at me and kind of past that as

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a gun that's honest that he's wearing

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I dropped the whole subject after that I

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stopped doing research and the guy had

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been talking to the email never heard

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from him again

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oh boy man I hate when those guys do

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that yeah kind of odd and funny enough I

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had archived every email we had been

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talking back and forth couple times a

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day

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I never deleted the single one of those

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and I thought I still have that email

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account and only two of those messages

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to build survived no man maybe the ETS

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came over or the man black yeah could be

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the the internet hipsters are at work

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and play if I email the guy now

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I don't get it undeliverable just no

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response mm well kind of disappears off

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into the ethers it's like having ether I

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think but before our network gives us

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ether why Eunice tan let me tell you we

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have a listener roundtable with ho jack

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sentry ufology joining gene and chris

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we are the premier independent talk

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radio network the genesis communications

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network G C n is there a secret UFO

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636
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this is our first listener roundtable

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for 2014

639
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howard jackson kirk collins and our

640
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:24,250
friend Randall better known as ufology

641
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:26,110
and Howard was telling us before the

642
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,930
break about trying to find some NASA guy

643
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:30,480
whoops

644
00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:33,310
you know I don't like the intimidation

645
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:35,980
tactics myself or what what appeared to

646
00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:39,610
you to be a very very veiled sort of

647
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:41,800
threat I don't like it when those people

648
00:27:46,260 --> 00:27:44,110
do that yeah I had a friend who years

649
00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:46,270
later had a job where they were doing a

650
00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:47,590
background check on him for the

651
00:27:51,630 --> 00:27:49,630
Department of Defense and they sent out

652
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:51,640
letters to people they didn't actually

653
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:53,410
show up at people's workplaces to ask

654
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:55,930
for information so the whole roots of

655
00:27:58,860 --> 00:27:57,610
coming in to ask for information on an

656
00:28:01,740 --> 00:27:58,870
employee who was applying for a job

657
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:01,750
seemed a little bit sketchy to me they

658
00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:04,090
just heard can I ask a question about

659
00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:05,320
that yeah

660
00:28:09,930 --> 00:28:08,230
was there a base nearby uh there's

661
00:28:11,580 --> 00:28:09,940
there's plenty of bases around here but

662
00:28:14,010 --> 00:28:11,590
I've never been able to find any kind of

663
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:14,020
apartment defend office anywhere near

664
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:16,690
Cleveland mmm yeah I'm racking my brain

665
00:28:20,010 --> 00:28:18,370
I can't think of any place that they

666
00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:20,020
might be operating out of either in that

667
00:28:26,610 --> 00:28:23,080
area odd that you'd be in full military

668
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:26,620
dress blues yeah so we're talking Air

669
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:31,210
Force and I assume then yeah hmm hmm

670
00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:33,490
well I'm glad I never had to deal with

671
00:28:39,890 --> 00:28:37,180
that I I was expecting four years that

672
00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:39,900
someone would show up you know with no

673
00:28:44,340 --> 00:28:42,940
room for interpretation at my door based

674
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:44,350
on some of the things I was getting into

675
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:46,570
and it was only when I got into the

676
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:48,910
whole question of underground facilities

677
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,330
that are hidden from view and probably

678
00:29:00,090 --> 00:28:54,880
from Congress and the American people

679
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:00,100
that did I ever had any possible visit

680
00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:03,850
and and it was so subtle and I don't

681
00:29:08,610 --> 00:29:05,920
know how to explain it I mean the guy

682
00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:08,620
was not dressed in full military garb or

683
00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:10,030
he didn't look like one of the Blues

684
00:29:15,450 --> 00:29:12,220
Brothers he looked like a spook

685
00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:15,460
basically safari suit brush cut hair he

686
00:29:20,610 --> 00:29:18,430
had this book look yeah yeah he did

687
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:20,620
definitely no question and he was a

688
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:22,810
director from the Institute of social

689
00:29:26,340 --> 00:29:24,880
architecture on K Street in Washington

690
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:26,350
DC so you can

691
00:29:30,990 --> 00:29:28,720
that'll make your own no draw your own

692
00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:31,000
conclusions he told me that I should I

693
00:29:34,830 --> 00:29:32,590
should maybe be thinking about my

694
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:34,840
motivations that some of the things I

695
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:36,730
was looking into most people didn't have

696
00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:38,890
a need to know and perhaps I should be

697
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:41,470
questioning my own motivations and I

698
00:29:45,690 --> 00:29:42,910
said we didn't show up with a sampson i

699
00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:45,700
filled with $100 bills or you're not

700
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:47,830
offering me a major record deal with my

701
00:29:56,370 --> 00:29:50,559
band or some huge publishing deal with a

702
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:56,380
major publisher so uh no I'm bored I'm

703
00:29:59,460 --> 00:29:57,520
looking into this stuff

704
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:59,470
it's funny in all the years I've been

705
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:01,120
doing this I've never had a military

706
00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:03,520
person come over to me and say gene you

707
00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:05,230
know Shh

708
00:30:09,870 --> 00:30:07,990
not that I haven't known people who were

709
00:30:12,270 --> 00:30:09,880
in the military but there you go

710
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:12,280
Kurt Collins tell our listeners more

711
00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:14,110
about yourself for those who didn't hear

712
00:30:17,789 --> 00:30:16,030
your first appearance on here well you

713
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:17,799
know your introduction was great to us

714
00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:19,570
anything I would just diminish it but

715
00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:21,790
I've continued to work on that the cash

716
00:30:26,669 --> 00:30:24,400
Lantern case and have made it up made a

717
00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:26,679
few well I don't know there's activity

718
00:30:33,950 --> 00:30:28,840
I'm not sure how much progress I ran to

719
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:33,960
a pilot to join the best suspect for the

720
00:30:39,330 --> 00:30:36,970
helicopters in the cat Lanham case were

721
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:39,340
the night stalkers and this uh this

722
00:30:44,430 --> 00:30:41,890
gentleman was a pilot and became a

723
00:30:46,409 --> 00:30:44,440
flight instructor just two or three

724
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:46,419
years later and so he would have served

725
00:30:49,980 --> 00:30:48,370
with some of the people and he's he's

726
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:49,990
been providing me some of the technical

727
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:52,960
details and operational details and just

728
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:54,850
you know if if it happened the way it's

729
00:30:57,900 --> 00:30:56,650
reported you know here's what how it

730
00:30:59,640 --> 00:30:57,910
would have worked and here's what

731
00:31:01,320 --> 00:30:59,650
couldn't have happened so so that's

732
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:01,330
that's excellent resource and some

733
00:31:06,390 --> 00:31:04,090
trying to develop that I will just you

734
00:31:08,580 --> 00:31:06,400
know collect more information of manage

735
00:31:11,250 --> 00:31:08,590
to uh to contact the witness called deal

736
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:11,260
and remit talked a little about bit to

737
00:31:15,630 --> 00:31:13,360
him but he's he's reluctant to talk

738
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:15,640
about the case so he's you know you'll

739
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:17,440
he'll drop out of sight for months at a

740
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:17,890
time

741
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:20,770
mmm how's his health has he suffered any

742
00:31:25,710 --> 00:31:23,679
ill effects from his potential encounter

743
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:25,720
with that what appeared to be a

744
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:29,410
radiation source over in overhead not uh

745
00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:32,410
not physical problems but he was he

746
00:31:36,990 --> 00:31:35,020
suffered pretty severe well I don't know

747
00:31:39,270 --> 00:31:37,000
if I'm gonna say severe but he's had

748
00:31:39,980 --> 00:31:39,280
emotional problems as a result of it

749
00:31:44,390 --> 00:31:39,990
experi

750
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:44,400
and you know just some of some things as

751
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:46,770
simple as childhood easing and you know

752
00:31:53,090 --> 00:31:49,850
just people not believe him and he's uh

753
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:53,100
well by his own admission he he he uh

754
00:31:57,890 --> 00:31:55,650
kind of do kind of developed a

755
00:32:01,520 --> 00:31:57,900
belligerent temperament got into a lot

756
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:01,530
of fights over the years and uh so you

757
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:04,320
know it's it's taking it its toll on him

758
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:07,260
just throughout his life kind of a PTSD

759
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:10,880
sort of situation alright that's how he

760
00:32:18,380 --> 00:32:15,450
describes it I think so yeah be

761
00:32:21,770 --> 00:32:18,390
interesting to somebody to do a a study

762
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:21,780
looking at people who have experienced

763
00:32:27,410 --> 00:32:24,450
you know just extremely high strange and

764
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:27,420
troubling events over the years and

765
00:32:32,780 --> 00:32:31,410
seeing how they have been able to how it

766
00:32:35,180 --> 00:32:32,790
has affected their lives and how it's

767
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:35,190
affected their thinking and possibly

768
00:32:43,970 --> 00:32:38,490
their um as you're describing with Colby

769
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:43,980
uh their their social how it's affected

770
00:32:48,530 --> 00:32:46,320
them socially in terms of their ability

771
00:32:50,450 --> 00:32:48,540
to interact with strangers with family

772
00:32:52,940 --> 00:32:50,460
and friends I've never seen anybody

773
00:32:56,450 --> 00:32:52,950
really do a detailed examination of of

774
00:33:01,510 --> 00:32:56,460
people that have experienced these types

775
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:01,520
of you know events having become

776
00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:05,370
friendly with with Travis Walton I found

777
00:33:09,530 --> 00:33:07,620
myself in a number of situations where

778
00:33:12,010 --> 00:33:09,540
he's been around and I've kind of sat

779
00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:12,020
back in the corner and watched him and

780
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:14,190
there's no question in my mind that he

781
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:16,050
went through something highly highly

782
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:19,200
bizarre very traumatic and and you can

783
00:33:23,690 --> 00:33:21,690
see it sometimes he'll he'll feel like

784
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:23,700
kind of fade out he'll just sit there

785
00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:25,710
with his eyes kind of wide open staring

786
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:28,950
uh and you kind of have to snap him back

787
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,170
you know it's like hello Travis you know

788
00:33:35,420 --> 00:33:33,360
anybody home you know then why does he

789
00:33:38,540 --> 00:33:35,430
come on the power casters Chris I've

790
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:38,550
left out and I just left a messages for

791
00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:42,000
him recently actually I don't know gene

792
00:33:46,730 --> 00:33:43,740
I think he might be a little gun-shy I

793
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:46,740
don't know about Walt in there if I can

794
00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:48,690
interject but sure I'd like to point out

795
00:33:52,850 --> 00:33:51,000
there when you were saying that you sort

796
00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:52,860
of didn't know of other people that had

797
00:33:55,580 --> 00:33:53,880
really looked at this

798
00:33:57,500 --> 00:33:55,590
ecology I'd have to point out that John

799
00:34:01,640 --> 00:33:57,510
Mackey did some excellent work in that

800
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:01,650
he did quite a bit extensive work with

801
00:34:06,140 --> 00:34:04,080
people who had had high strange

802
00:34:09,470 --> 00:34:06,150
experiences and it's too bad that he's

803
00:34:12,619 --> 00:34:09,480
no longer with us but definitely some

804
00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:12,629
detailed work they're almost exclusively

805
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:16,409
in the abductee room I think casual

806
00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:19,050
observers of events are affected by

807
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:22,080
these events and something like an

808
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:24,480
abduction scenario obviously you're

809
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:28,169
gonna have quite fertile ground for some

810
00:34:32,510 --> 00:34:30,690
psychological profiling and looking at

811
00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:32,520
how these events have affected the

812
00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:34,889
victim if you want to use that term but

813
00:34:38,780 --> 00:34:36,750
just someone who happens to be on a

814
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:38,790
country road at the wrong time and has

815
00:34:46,669 --> 00:34:44,850
you know a ce3 or even a a c4 kind of

816
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:46,679
encounter where they see entities where

817
00:34:50,930 --> 00:34:48,690
they're they're actually you know

818
00:34:53,450 --> 00:34:50,940
impacted by some sort of energetic

819
00:34:55,369 --> 00:34:53,460
properties of the event I don't think

820
00:34:58,850 --> 00:34:55,379
enough work has been done in that realm

821
00:35:00,920 --> 00:34:58,860
now I know of course John Mack did do

822
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:00,930
some very good work working with

823
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:03,570
abductees but the whole abduction

824
00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:06,960
scenario to me is still it's you know I

825
00:35:13,610 --> 00:35:10,680
still am not sure at what point the

826
00:35:18,170 --> 00:35:13,620
reality of the situation ends and some

827
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:18,180
sort of psychological you know scenario

828
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:22,320
I guess begins I I think one good way of

829
00:35:27,110 --> 00:35:25,410
putting it was told to the head of the

830
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department of public safety at the

831
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Hickory Apache reservation who at

832
00:35:33,140 --> 00:35:30,600
Filardi he was in training with his

833
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:33,150
grandfather to be a medicine holder in

834
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:36,770
his particular medicine Society and he

835
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,890
asked his grandfather about the

836
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:42,000
abduction phenomenon his grandfather

837
00:35:46,130 --> 00:35:43,530
said it's it's not so much that you're

838
00:35:48,140 --> 00:35:46,140
taken out of your room and you taken up

839
00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:48,150
to his ship he said it's like the ship

840
00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:51,960
forms around you and that's that's to me

841
00:35:57,940 --> 00:35:53,910
that's that's a really good illustration

842
00:36:00,440 --> 00:35:57,950
of what I think some of the as yet

843
00:36:02,270 --> 00:36:00,450
undefined elements of the abduction

844
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:02,280
phenomenon I think there's much more of

845
00:36:07,370 --> 00:36:05,370
a psychological element involved then up

846
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:07,380
here nuts and bolts

847
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:09,210
duction if you will that's been

848
00:36:13,130 --> 00:36:11,609
popularized by by all sorts of people

849
00:36:16,730 --> 00:36:13,140
over the years but it's one of the

850
00:36:19,789 --> 00:36:16,740
things here with abductions is that the

851
00:36:23,749 --> 00:36:19,799
mere experience itself especially if

852
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:23,759
some undergo various kinds of medical

853
00:36:28,940 --> 00:36:27,089
analysis can be torture it has to have

854
00:36:29,509 --> 00:36:28,950
some effect we'll get into more of this

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962
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963
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psychological impact of having an

964
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abduction experience regardless of the

965
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cause it's a listener roundtable with ho

966
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jack century ufology and randall you had

967
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a comment to make before we broke yeah I

968
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was going to say that Mac didn't work

969
00:41:37,780 --> 00:41:33,980
exclusively with abductees he was also

970
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:37,790
involved in the ruas and bob way and

971
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:40,250
ride the school kids right absolutely

972
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:44,450
and there's a lot of stuff that he puts

973
00:41:47,260 --> 00:41:45,890
in his books if you're really get into

974
00:41:49,780 --> 00:41:47,270
reading them one of the things he says

975
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:49,790
is that people sometimes go into a state

976
00:41:55,660 --> 00:41:53,210
of denial people are changed about the

977
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:55,670
way that they view life almost in the

978
00:42:00,640 --> 00:41:57,170
same way as people have near-death

979
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:00,650
experiences he says that there is an

980
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:03,770
extraordinary energy that is common to

981
00:42:08,290 --> 00:42:05,810
virtually all of these experiences that

982
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:08,300
some sort of a vibration energy whether

983
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:10,690
it's coming from the object itself or

984
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,240
felt by the witness or the abductee in

985
00:42:18,970 --> 00:42:16,720
whichever case it happens to be so I

986
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:18,980
think these are really interesting I do

987
00:42:24,130 --> 00:42:21,770
believe that when a person who has never

988
00:42:25,660 --> 00:42:24,140
had an experience like this before no

989
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:25,670
matter how much they think they're

990
00:42:30,430 --> 00:42:27,680
prepared for it when they actually have

991
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:30,440
one it does change them significantly

992
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:32,810
they don't they don't simply think it's

993
00:42:39,460 --> 00:42:36,110
possible anymore but they know the UFOs

994
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:39,470
are real that's a good point uh your

995
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:42,560
guest Chris rutowski he he wrote a book

996
00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:44,210
I think it's called aliens and

997
00:42:48,970 --> 00:42:46,030
abductions I wasn't interested in

998
00:42:50,650 --> 00:42:48,980
abductions at all but due to some of the

999
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:50,660
psychology that they're shares with

1000
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:52,910
other cases I started looking into it

1001
00:42:57,790 --> 00:42:55,610
and in that book I've always was great

1002
00:43:00,010 --> 00:42:57,800
because it pointed out that this the

1003
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:00,020
experiences they have whether it's real

1004
00:43:04,780 --> 00:43:02,690
or imagined or sigh offering or any

1005
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:04,790
situation that you want to imagine could

1006
00:43:10,690 --> 00:43:07,450
cause it that these people really are

1007
00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:10,700
suffering and that it tends to there's

1008
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:12,230
some emotional problems that can be

1009
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:13,310
generated or

1010
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:16,010
yeah become well you know some people

1011
00:43:21,310 --> 00:43:18,110
can you know actually become unglued by

1012
00:43:22,450 --> 00:43:21,320
and even suicidal and it's really

1013
00:43:24,670 --> 00:43:22,460
important that they get some

1014
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:24,680
professional help and that's going to be

1015
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:27,890
difficult because the the professionals

1016
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:29,690
are not always going to understand that

1017
00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:32,930
the nature of the adduction problem but

1018
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:35,710
I think they can help guide you and

1019
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:37,610
understand you know to deal with the

1020
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:39,530
traumatic element even if they don't

1021
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:41,570
understand anything about that the alien

1022
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:43,520
element yeah it wouldn't hurt to have

1023
00:43:48,490 --> 00:43:46,010
some good professionals that would take

1024
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:48,500
a pick up where Mac left off people of

1025
00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:50,960
his caliber there really is a void in

1026
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:53,540
that particular area that well I don't

1027
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:54,800
know of anyone who's filling it right

1028
00:43:59,530 --> 00:43:56,930
now you're absolutely right and you

1029
00:44:01,450 --> 00:43:59,540
mentioned that I mean recently John

1030
00:44:03,610 --> 00:44:01,460
Carpenter did a little bit of work in in

1031
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:03,620
this realm I'm not privy to a lot of

1032
00:44:08,770 --> 00:44:05,810
work if he really even came up with

1033
00:44:10,330 --> 00:44:08,780
conclusions but I do remember speaking

1034
00:44:12,490 --> 00:44:10,340
with some people that had seen him and

1035
00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:12,500
said he was very very helpful and he was

1036
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:15,950
able to in some ways allay their their

1037
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:18,410
paranoia and fear around the situation

1038
00:44:24,490 --> 00:44:21,130
and at least stabilize their emotional

1039
00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:24,500
side a little bit so you know there has

1040
00:44:28,060 --> 00:44:26,150
been work done but but I don't I don't

1041
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:28,070
see anybody really diving into this

1042
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:32,110
whole cloth and and doing a real a major

1043
00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:36,250
survey and in case histories of

1044
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:39,620
individuals who have had these types of

1045
00:44:42,990 --> 00:44:40,310
experiences

1046
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:43,000
I obviously it wouldn't be easy to do

1047
00:44:48,610 --> 00:44:45,970
but I'm sure that there's some smart

1048
00:44:51,010 --> 00:44:48,620
doctoral student in psychology or

1049
00:44:53,470 --> 00:44:51,020
sociology out there that boy this is a

1050
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:53,480
ripe subject that they could write their

1051
00:44:57,700 --> 00:44:55,520
own ticket in yeah you know I'm sure

1052
00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:57,710
that it doesn't take much to realize

1053
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:00,560
that a person who does believe that

1054
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:03,530
alien visitation as a reality has a

1055
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:05,930
completely different worldview than

1056
00:45:11,530 --> 00:45:08,810
somebody who thinks well maybe I don't

1057
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:11,540
really know nobody's proven it to me for

1058
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:13,910
those who know the universe and earth

1059
00:45:19,060 --> 00:45:16,250
and our place in it as sentient beings

1060
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:19,070
there's an entirely different place and

1061
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:21,530
for somebody who thinks well who knows

1062
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:24,890
who isn't sure we see something that is

1063
00:45:28,930 --> 00:45:27,170
very clear we know that there

1064
00:45:30,579 --> 00:45:28,940
is being visited by aliens and I'm not

1065
00:45:32,650 --> 00:45:30,589
afraid to say that I know that there's

1066
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:32,660
reserved ufologists out there to go back

1067
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:35,410
yeah maybe but I haven't got the proof

1068
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:38,690
but I think we do collectively have

1069
00:45:42,730 --> 00:45:40,130
enough proof the proof is in the

1070
00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:42,740
witnesses - witnesses themselves are the

1071
00:45:50,010 --> 00:45:46,790
we are the proof all right we've had

1072
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:50,020
this discussion in the forums Randall oh

1073
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:51,200
okay

1074
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:54,079
now I mentioned something in the first

1075
00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:55,730
part of the show that you won't hear

1076
00:46:01,420 --> 00:45:59,210
until it's broadcast and that is that

1077
00:46:03,099 --> 00:46:01,430
one of our listeners felt we concentrate

1078
00:46:06,099 --> 00:46:03,109
too much on things like ultra

1079
00:46:09,490 --> 00:46:06,109
terrestrials and not giving other

1080
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:09,500
theories fair play all right so let me

1081
00:46:13,890 --> 00:46:11,599
ask you a question this again takes us

1082
00:46:16,569 --> 00:46:13,900
back to forum discussions and that is

1083
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:16,579
what do you think in the eyewitness

1084
00:46:24,370 --> 00:46:20,770
testimony proves the UFOs or ET case

1085
00:46:28,059 --> 00:46:24,380
okay thanks you know I I always say that

1086
00:46:31,089 --> 00:46:28,069
I don't think that alien necessitates ET

1087
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:31,099
I think that alien could be a number of

1088
00:46:36,849 --> 00:46:33,770
things but that ET is just and most

1089
00:46:39,849 --> 00:46:36,859
likely given the situation and all of

1090
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:39,859
the factors that we know of so it's

1091
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:43,010
quite possible though less likely the

1092
00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:46,250
aliens aren't et I distinct ET is the

1093
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:49,910
most reasonable of all of the variables

1094
00:46:56,770 --> 00:46:54,049
there and as for what the proof is that

1095
00:46:59,650 --> 00:46:56,780
gets a little bit complex but it turns

1096
00:47:02,380 --> 00:46:59,660
out that people are not as unreliable as

1097
00:47:04,740 --> 00:47:02,390
the skeptics claim there's a flipside to

1098
00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:04,750
the skeptical argument that we're not

1099
00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:07,640
reliable observers or reliable recorders

1100
00:47:13,390 --> 00:47:11,150
of information but really we are pretty

1101
00:47:14,799 --> 00:47:13,400
good at it people are very smart we're

1102
00:47:16,690 --> 00:47:14,809
the most intelligent beings on the

1103
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:16,700
entire planet we do pretty well every

1104
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:18,410
day and we would not have survived this

1105
00:47:22,059 --> 00:47:19,970
far if we didn't know what we were

1106
00:47:25,329 --> 00:47:22,069
looking at you don't think that dolphins

1107
00:47:27,579 --> 00:47:25,339
are smart of course they're smart but

1108
00:47:29,710 --> 00:47:27,589
they can't talk to us about you know

1109
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:29,720
what goes on under water very well I

1110
00:47:34,539 --> 00:47:31,010
guess we have to learn their language

1111
00:47:36,789 --> 00:47:34,549
yeah we're we are able to look at a

1112
00:47:38,650 --> 00:47:36,799
situation and analyze it nowadays all

1113
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:38,660
the way down to the atomic level we can

1114
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:40,640
see individual atoms

1115
00:47:46,450 --> 00:47:43,130
we can see out to the very edge of the

1116
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:46,460
known universe 14 billion light-years

1117
00:47:50,830 --> 00:47:49,010
away we know our place in it now we're

1118
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:50,840
not so ignorant that we have to think

1119
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:54,400
that everything is magic no that's true

1120
00:48:00,400 --> 00:47:57,680
we are pretty smart and the smarter we

1121
00:48:03,970 --> 00:48:00,410
get the more dumb I think we appear at

1122
00:48:07,810 --> 00:48:03,980
least to Gaia itself the planet we're

1123
00:48:10,770 --> 00:48:07,820
doing detrimental damage and great harm

1124
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:10,780
to the ecosystems on this planet we lose

1125
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:14,240
countless species every day for every

1126
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:16,370
quarter pounder hamburger that we eat we

1127
00:48:22,570 --> 00:48:20,000
lose 55 square feet of rainforest we may

1128
00:48:25,930 --> 00:48:22,580
be smart but we're pardon the expression

1129
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:25,940
but ugly stupid in many ways yeah that's

1130
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:28,960
been a recurring theme in the us ology

1131
00:48:33,460 --> 00:48:31,130
realm too when you get into the

1132
00:48:35,530 --> 00:48:33,470
literature that and Mack talks about

1133
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:35,540
that as well but you know one of the

1134
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:37,280
things that I always like to point out

1135
00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:40,160
when we hear stories about contactees

1136
00:48:46,450 --> 00:48:43,430
delivering these ecological messages

1137
00:48:48,910 --> 00:48:46,460
they never point out the other side as

1138
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:48,920
well it's always sort of these trite

1139
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:51,290
explanations that we already know about

1140
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:52,970
the pollution and the damage we're doing

1141
00:48:57,370 --> 00:48:55,610
to the planet and they talk about how

1142
00:48:59,770 --> 00:48:57,380
beautiful it is but they also don't talk

1143
00:49:02,440 --> 00:48:59,780
about the really destructive side of

1144
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:02,450
nature or the fact that some lions eat

1145
00:49:08,020 --> 00:49:04,810
their own cubs that sort of thing that

1146
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:08,030
it seems to be really idealized and

1147
00:49:11,770 --> 00:49:09,520
one-sided

1148
00:49:14,980 --> 00:49:11,780
wouldn't that be therefore something

1149
00:49:16,450 --> 00:49:14,990
that may be voiced for their benefit you

1150
00:49:18,340 --> 00:49:16,460
know maybe they have some sort of prime

1151
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:18,350
directive who or whatever they might be

1152
00:49:23,830 --> 00:49:22,160
if you talk to the locals you know give

1153
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:23,840
them some kind of cover story maybe that

1154
00:49:31,390 --> 00:49:26,690
is the cover story okay what do you say

1155
00:49:33,460 --> 00:49:31,400
to the Earthlings to put them on guard

1156
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:33,470
or make them convinced that you're

1157
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:35,810
genuine oh you know talk about the

1158
00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:40,730
environment do it that seems really

1159
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:43,190
disingenuous to me I mean as if we don't

1160
00:49:47,350 --> 00:49:44,930
know that we've got problems what we

1161
00:49:50,050 --> 00:49:47,360
need them to do is give us some evidence

1162
00:49:54,589 --> 00:49:50,060
that's definitive that skeptics can go

1163
00:49:58,670 --> 00:49:54,599
well that's valid material

1164
00:50:00,609 --> 00:49:58,680
antic verifiable evidence for them to go

1165
00:50:03,940 --> 00:50:00,619
oh okay well then maybe they'll listen

1166
00:50:06,650 --> 00:50:03,950
in the meantime how important is it to

1167
00:50:08,420 --> 00:50:06,660
hear again yes we've got environmental

1168
00:50:12,349 --> 00:50:08,430
problems from the aliens we know it

1169
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:12,359
ourselves you know you know well yeah

1170
00:50:17,569 --> 00:50:15,089
but you have people nowadays who don't

1171
00:50:20,289 --> 00:50:17,579
even accept the possibility of manmade

1172
00:50:22,969 --> 00:50:20,299
climate change as you know in the forms

1173
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:22,979
we've had some pretty active discussions

1174
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:25,200
and debates over that pretty active well

1175
00:50:29,690 --> 00:50:26,609
that's an undersea

1176
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:29,700
I am understating it there let's just

1177
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:33,210
say incendiary but this is not just here

1178
00:50:41,269 --> 00:50:37,920
like there are elements in the media who

1179
00:50:44,749 --> 00:50:41,279
will insist that there cannot be manmade

1180
00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:44,759
climate change because a small number of

1181
00:50:50,059 --> 00:50:46,950
people disagree with it so I don't know

1182
00:50:51,739 --> 00:50:50,069
it isn't so obvious that people accept

1183
00:50:54,289 --> 00:50:51,749
that or the environment

1184
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:54,299
some people say let's just drill baby

1185
00:51:00,319 --> 00:50:57,839
drill let's just get all the oil we can

1186
00:51:03,469 --> 00:51:00,329
and if there are consequences we'll deal

1187
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:03,479
with it next couple of generations we

1188
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:04,890
don't worry about that right now

1189
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:07,440
let's worry about this we have a break

1190
00:51:11,870 --> 00:51:09,089
coming up and we're talking to you

1191
00:51:14,089 --> 00:51:11,880
follow gee that's Randall Murphy and

1192
00:51:16,609 --> 00:51:14,099
Kurt Collins known as sentry and Howard

1193
00:51:18,140 --> 00:51:16,619
Jackson known as Howe Jack and I'm going

1194
00:51:20,779 --> 00:51:18,150
to ask him if he got that name just

1195
00:51:24,620 --> 00:51:20,789
because of his name or he was emulating

1196
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:24,630
LoJack Oh Jack LoJack aiona Kojak or

1197
00:51:33,070 --> 00:51:26,880
Kojak hey as another possibility with

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1238
00:54:03,180 --> 00:53:58,880
welcome back to the para cast the gold

1239
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standard of paranormal radio and now

1240
00:54:15,189 --> 00:54:11,869
here's Jean Steinberg okay ho Jack

1241
00:54:17,499 --> 00:54:15,199
Howard Jackson tell us the name ho Jack

1242
00:54:19,569 --> 00:54:17,509
that's just shortening your name you

1243
00:54:21,699 --> 00:54:19,579
didn't think of Kojak Glo Jack or

1244
00:54:23,469 --> 00:54:21,709
anything like that a friend of mine in

1245
00:54:25,809 --> 00:54:23,479
college gave me that name I never

1246
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:25,819
thought of it before that but he based

1247
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:28,640
it on Kojak you have the same kind of

1248
00:54:38,349 --> 00:54:33,410
hair that objected no I have I'm getting

1249
00:54:41,979 --> 00:54:38,359
there I have too much hair I'm allergic

1250
00:54:43,479 --> 00:54:41,989
to haircuts I wonder when one of the

1251
00:54:46,359 --> 00:54:43,489
aliens gonna start warning us about

1252
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:46,369
corporate greed and uh you know the

1253
00:54:52,779 --> 00:54:49,249
emerging fascist plutocracy and corp

1254
00:54:57,069 --> 00:54:52,789
autocracy or warned us about the cattle

1255
00:54:59,799 --> 00:54:57,079
farting belch more ozone depleting gases

1256
00:55:02,529 --> 00:54:59,809
than all the planes trucks buses and

1257
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:02,539
cars combined I mean I can't wait to

1258
00:55:07,959 --> 00:55:04,160
hear that that particular abductor

1259
00:55:10,689 --> 00:55:07,969
abductee conversation I agree with you

1260
00:55:12,249 --> 00:55:10,699
there though the chatter from the

1261
00:55:14,529 --> 00:55:12,259
abductees is kind of getting

1262
00:55:17,620 --> 00:55:14,539
old-fashioned in fact the other question

1263
00:55:19,269 --> 00:55:17,630
I have is are we even these days hearing

1264
00:55:21,489 --> 00:55:19,279
too many abduction cases

1265
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:21,499
this hasn't been a while that we've had

1266
00:55:26,529 --> 00:55:23,839
any reports so you know what do you guys

1267
00:55:28,299 --> 00:55:26,539
think how come we've seen such a it

1268
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:28,309
appears that that we've seen a complete

1269
00:55:33,130 --> 00:55:31,249
almost a complete cessation of abduction

1270
00:55:35,049 --> 00:55:33,140
reports there's very very few that that

1271
00:55:36,189 --> 00:55:35,059
come across my desk oh you know over the

1272
00:55:37,930 --> 00:55:36,199
past few years what do you guys think

1273
00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:37,940
before you do that we did have an

1274
00:55:43,809 --> 00:55:41,089
abductee on the show back in 2010 guy

1275
00:55:45,969 --> 00:55:43,819
named Doug and I think his experiences

1276
00:55:50,370 --> 00:55:45,979
were more recent I had a conversation

1277
00:55:52,479 --> 00:55:50,380
with him after that he was undergoing

1278
00:55:54,849 --> 00:55:52,489
analysis or whatever from the late Budd

1279
00:55:58,269 --> 00:55:54,859
Hopkins that's the last I heard of it

1280
00:56:00,609 --> 00:55:58,279
it always seems to me that nowadays

1281
00:56:03,309 --> 00:56:00,619
there's just it's so saturated into our

1282
00:56:06,359 --> 00:56:03,319
culture that it's so hard because

1283
00:56:08,170 --> 00:56:06,369
they're so similar to really separate

1284
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,180
real experiences

1285
00:56:12,579 --> 00:56:10,400
from maybe other unusual things that are

1286
00:56:15,849 --> 00:56:12,589
happening to people that they then put

1287
00:56:18,970 --> 00:56:15,859
this abduction story around so you think

1288
00:56:20,829 --> 00:56:18,980
the abduction story then is a shield to

1289
00:56:24,370 --> 00:56:20,839
what might have happened or is it

1290
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:24,380
something that they create themselves to

1291
00:56:28,780 --> 00:56:26,720
hide the real fact or the real episode I

1292
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:28,790
think there are real things that happen

1293
00:56:33,210 --> 00:56:31,130
I also think there are other things that

1294
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:33,220
happen to people that psychologically

1295
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:38,480
they project this shield around so I

1296
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:40,010
think there's a mix of a lot I don't

1297
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:42,319
think there's one solution to it but

1298
00:56:47,290 --> 00:56:44,690
it's just so saturated in our culture

1299
00:56:49,770 --> 00:56:47,300
now how do you separate that well I

1300
00:56:52,089 --> 00:56:49,780
think it's it's become a very powerful

1301
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:52,099
meme in the culture but I don't I don't

1302
00:56:56,740 --> 00:56:54,530
see saturation of it I mean and I really

1303
00:56:59,380 --> 00:56:56,750
don't not like you did in the late 80s

1304
00:57:01,839 --> 00:56:59,390
into the 90s you know maybe maybe it was

1305
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:01,849
the communion effect after whitley

1306
00:57:06,849 --> 00:57:04,250
strieber had such an amass of success

1307
00:57:09,069 --> 00:57:06,859
with the communion first couple three

1308
00:57:12,339 --> 00:57:09,079
communion books then it almost seems

1309
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:12,349
like once john mack died and and in the

1310
00:57:16,349 --> 00:57:13,730
whole the whole thing started to take a

1311
00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:16,359
nosedive in terms of its popularity and

1312
00:57:22,030 --> 00:57:19,040
but but for those of us to kind of keep

1313
00:57:25,650 --> 00:57:22,040
our finger on the pulse of this of all

1314
00:57:30,339 --> 00:57:25,660
these various subjects as best we can i

1315
00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:30,349
i've seen a real decrease in in mentions

1316
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:34,609
of abductions in the media in terms of

1317
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:39,049
new cases or new claims I have not seen

1318
00:57:44,380 --> 00:57:41,690
anywhere near the type of attention that

1319
00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:44,390
that particular subject was getting in

1320
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:46,790
the in the 90s let's say in the late 80s

1321
00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:49,040
and it seems to have died in the media

1322
00:57:54,099 --> 00:57:51,609
some time I remember the sleep paralysis

1323
00:57:56,589 --> 00:57:54,109
theory came out and after that you just

1324
00:57:59,380 --> 00:57:56,599
kind of heard seen it nosedive in the

1325
00:58:01,809 --> 00:57:59,390
media I think it's kind of like a UFO

1326
00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:01,819
cases in general though that that that

1327
00:58:12,460 --> 00:58:07,369
the media in some ways causes extra less

1328
00:58:15,069 --> 00:58:12,470
genuine cases plus say maybe not sure

1329
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:15,079
exactly how we determine that with any

1330
00:58:19,150 --> 00:58:16,730
certainty it might just be bringing out

1331
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:19,160
more genuine cases because people are

1332
00:58:23,650 --> 00:58:22,010
less afraid to to bring them out

1333
00:58:27,580 --> 00:58:23,660
returning to the topic of how do we

1334
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:27,590
separate the two in on the US I say we

1335
00:58:34,210 --> 00:58:32,000
have the siting evaluation section which

1336
00:58:36,490 --> 00:58:34,220
talks about how to look at the different

1337
00:58:39,550 --> 00:58:36,500
kinds of settings that there are and in

1338
00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:39,560
terms of the confidence rating we look

1339
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:44,240
at a an abduction or sighting and we try

1340
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:46,640
to say okay well did someone experience

1341
00:58:51,220 --> 00:58:48,890
this in an altered state did they

1342
00:58:53,410 --> 00:58:51,230
experience it with some correlation to

1343
00:58:56,830 --> 00:58:53,420
reality is it some sort of assisted

1344
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:56,840
recall with some correlation is it a

1345
00:59:01,510 --> 00:58:58,730
conscious experience and a recall of an

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00:59:03,550 --> 00:59:01,520
event that say more than five years old

1347
00:59:06,190 --> 00:59:03,560
is it a clear conscious experience and

1348
00:59:08,740 --> 00:59:06,200
recall of a recent event and if you take

1349
00:59:11,290 --> 00:59:08,750
all of the the factors that are involved

1350
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:11,300
in a case you can sometimes find that

1351
00:59:17,490 --> 00:59:13,730
you've got actual complete conscious

1352
00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:17,500
recollection of a UFO sighting that is

1353
00:59:24,070 --> 00:59:20,950
complemented by the typical abduction

1354
00:59:25,690 --> 00:59:24,080
facets and so well those you might want

1355
00:59:27,850 --> 00:59:25,700
to take a little more seriously that's

1356
00:59:29,170 --> 00:59:27,860
how we do it anyway all right but yeah

1357
00:59:30,910 --> 00:59:29,180
why are they ask you something gives

1358
00:59:34,750 --> 00:59:30,920
it's implied by what you say Randall and

1359
00:59:37,710 --> 00:59:34,760
that is that as a consequence of seeing

1360
00:59:41,740 --> 00:59:37,720
the UFO could that possibly trigger a

1361
00:59:45,340 --> 00:59:41,750
mental reaction that expands upon the

1362
00:59:47,590 --> 00:59:45,350
episode and fills in details I suppose

1363
00:59:49,330 --> 00:59:47,600
it's possible but then again that's when

1364
00:59:51,490 --> 00:59:49,340
you have to turn and look at well how

1365
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:51,500
much of the reality of the situation can

1366
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:53,210
be correlated to the subjective

1367
00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:56,690
experience so say if you have a sighting

1368
01:00:00,040 --> 00:59:58,610
where there's it turns out that there

1369
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:00,050
was two or three other witnesses that

1370
01:00:03,730 --> 01:00:01,610
were unconnected to the original

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01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:03,740
complete conscious recollection sighting

1372
01:00:08,380 --> 01:00:06,410
of a UFO and then somebody reports that

1373
01:00:10,780 --> 01:00:08,390
there was missing time that they also

1374
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:10,790
saw the UFO and then you look at the

1375
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:13,130
situation and you can correlate amongst

1376
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:15,650
the witnesses different information that

1377
01:00:20,620 --> 01:00:18,890
seems to be far too coincidental to just

1378
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:20,630
be made up you might want to take it a

1379
01:00:24,730 --> 01:00:21,650
little more seriously

1380
01:00:26,380 --> 01:00:24,740
well there's one aspect of UFO abduction

1381
01:00:29,170 --> 01:00:26,390
research it kind of bothers me but I

1382
01:00:32,500 --> 01:00:29,180
understand it and that is that some

1383
01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:32,510
abduction researchers withhold a fact or

1384
01:00:37,870 --> 01:00:35,599
a factoid about the experience

1385
01:00:39,999 --> 01:00:37,880
and use that as a way to gauge whether

1386
01:00:41,199 --> 01:00:40,009
the experiencer is telling the truth

1387
01:00:43,150 --> 01:00:41,209
because if they mentioned something

1388
01:00:45,699 --> 01:00:43,160
about this fact that's being withheld

1389
01:00:47,650 --> 01:00:45,709
that seems to confirm it will that

1390
01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:47,660
indicates the abduction experience might

1391
01:00:53,049 --> 01:00:51,049
be genuine unfortunately as I said they

1392
01:00:56,229 --> 01:00:53,059
don't tell us what that factoid is I

1393
01:00:57,969 --> 01:00:56,239
understand their logic behind it which

1394
01:00:59,410 --> 01:00:57,979
is that if they revealed it then anybody

1395
01:01:00,969 --> 01:00:59,420
who wants to fake an abduction

1396
01:01:02,709 --> 01:01:00,979
experience would be able to do so

1397
01:01:04,359 --> 01:01:02,719
although I don't know how many people

1398
01:01:06,370 --> 01:01:04,369
out there who report these experiences

1399
01:01:08,109 --> 01:01:06,380
are really faking it I mean if you're

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01:01:10,420 --> 01:01:08,119
going to fake something that's a pretty

1401
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:10,430
frightening thing to make up you have a

1402
01:01:14,279 --> 01:01:11,930
really good point there Jean and I think

1403
01:01:16,719 --> 01:01:14,289
that the that what you're saying it's

1404
01:01:18,249 --> 01:01:16,729
misunderstood by a lot of people I don't

1405
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:18,259
think that what they're doing is saying

1406
01:01:23,979 --> 01:01:21,130
that they've got necessarily one key

1407
01:01:26,469 --> 01:01:23,989
item that they can compare to all cases

1408
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:26,479
but they'll look at a case and go okay

1409
01:01:32,529 --> 01:01:29,410
well this particular case does have some

1410
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:32,539
facets that are unique to it and

1411
01:01:36,430 --> 01:01:34,640
therefore if some other people start to

1412
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:36,440
comment on this case we can look at that

1413
01:01:41,380 --> 01:01:39,049
particular key for that case somewhat

1414
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:41,390
with the Zamora sighting for example now

1415
01:01:45,609 --> 01:01:43,609
that wasn't an abduction case but there

1416
01:01:48,099 --> 01:01:45,619
was an insignia on the side of the ship

1417
01:01:50,739 --> 01:01:48,109
that was seen and that insignia the

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01:01:52,539 --> 01:01:50,749
actual design was altered and kept

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01:01:54,609 --> 01:01:52,549
secret for a number of years so that

1420
01:01:56,650 --> 01:01:54,619
they can compare that with other people

1421
01:01:58,449 --> 01:01:56,660
who might say that they had seen the

1422
01:02:00,489 --> 01:01:58,459
same ship and know whether or not they

1423
01:02:01,689 --> 01:02:00,499
were from that if it wasn't the same

1424
01:02:04,089 --> 01:02:01,699
whether or not they were telling the

1425
01:02:05,769 --> 01:02:04,099
truth so each case could be entirely

1426
01:02:08,019 --> 01:02:05,779
different I don't I don't think there's

1427
01:02:10,749 --> 01:02:08,029
this overriding single key that we all

1428
01:02:13,299 --> 01:02:10,759
know about or don't know though yeah I

1429
01:02:14,769 --> 01:02:13,309
agree with that and having become sort

1430
01:02:18,459 --> 01:02:14,779
of peripherally embroiled in there's

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01:02:21,099 --> 01:02:18,469
more insignia debacle that raised

1432
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:21,109
Stanford was was involved with along

1433
01:02:26,709 --> 01:02:24,650
with the Army officer who was there I

1434
01:02:29,259 --> 01:02:26,719
think it was captain holder and in of

1435
01:02:31,569 --> 01:02:29,269
course Allen Hynek the original drawing

1436
01:02:33,969 --> 01:02:31,579
was found by James Fox and Andray

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Stanford this spring at the National

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Archives and a letter explaining why

1439
01:02:42,910 --> 01:02:40,190
this this subterfuge was was actually

1440
01:02:45,279 --> 01:02:42,920
perpetrated and why this symbol was held

1441
01:02:47,109 --> 01:02:45,289
back which of indicated rake he was

1442
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:47,119
being called a liar on by several

1443
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:48,610
investigators

1444
01:02:53,070 --> 01:02:51,130
and uh I just I just find it interesting

1445
01:02:57,270 --> 01:02:53,080
we're talking here about abductions and

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01:03:00,930 --> 01:02:57,280
I get this email just now from IFC Films

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the Sundance selects uh folks and we

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have a new film by first-time director

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Mattie bekommen called alien abduction

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coming soon from IFC midnight our newest

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film alien abduction and it's produced

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by Lawrence bender who helped produce

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pulp fiction and Kill Bill and Mike

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Fleiss who helped produce hostile The

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Texas Chainsaw Massacre and it has a

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bunch of actors and actresses who I'm

1457
01:03:28,350 --> 01:03:26,170
not familiar with but the tagline is a

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vacationing family encounters an alien

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01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:30,600
threat in this pulse-pounding thriller

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what we will encounter a threat if we

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don't stop now

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Chris was telling us about this new

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independent film called alien abduction

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sound producers who seemed to have a

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pretty big background yeah this seems

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like special early big in bender you

1557
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know hope fiction Kill Bill

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I love Kill Bill both was alright

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unknowns although I guess they all have

1560
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:45,370
some credits is the tagline sure a

1561
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:47,930
vacationing family encounters an alien

1562
01:08:52,420 --> 01:08:49,970
threat in this pulse-pounding thriller

1563
01:08:54,910 --> 01:08:52,430
based on real-life Brown Mountain lights

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01:08:57,550 --> 01:08:54,920
in North Carolina you ever heard the

1565
01:08:59,200 --> 01:08:57,560
Brown Mountain lights Chris of course I

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have and they don't abduct people they

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just sit there and light up that there

1568
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was a guy named Ralph Leo that I

1569
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:07,340
interviewed with Geneva Hagen and also

1570
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:09,410
with Alan Greenfield and he claimed to

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01:09:13,810 --> 01:09:12,050
be in contact with the aliens who were

1572
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:13,820
in part responsible for the Brown

1573
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:16,250
Mountain lights but I don't recall him

1574
01:09:20,050 --> 01:09:18,650
being a UFO abductees but it's us

1575
01:09:22,330 --> 01:09:20,060
another film you know I remember that

1576
01:09:25,450 --> 01:09:22,340
other one and something about the Fourth

1577
01:09:27,820 --> 01:09:25,460
Kind remember that was all grooving to

1578
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:27,830
be pretty much a hoax it was just a film

1579
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I was actually a decent fell yeah I

1580
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wasn't bad as the film but it you know

1581
01:09:36,730 --> 01:09:34,670
it kind of got the Blair Witch kind of

1582
01:09:38,710 --> 01:09:36,740
promotion to begin with to shape

1583
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:38,720
everyone up to thinking might have some

1584
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:40,970
semblance of reality to it

1585
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:42,890
I think it's funny I should mention that

1586
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:45,730
we haven't seen much alien abduction

1587
01:09:50,890 --> 01:09:47,690
sensationalism in the media and then I

1588
01:09:53,350 --> 01:09:50,900
get this this unsolicited email two

1589
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:53,360
minutes later announcing this new fairly

1590
01:09:58,690 --> 01:09:55,520
me a large budgeted film about the

1591
01:10:00,160 --> 01:09:58,700
subject uh oh well there's some

1592
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synchronicity for you Chris

1593
01:10:05,170 --> 01:10:02,990
wouldn't even get Madi Beckerman the

1594
01:10:08,020 --> 01:10:05,180
director for an interview I don't think

1595
01:10:10,510 --> 01:10:08,030
we have any reason to do that but it

1596
01:10:14,020 --> 01:10:10,520
might be fun I'd love to uh I love to

1597
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:14,030
pick it apart well you know what let me

1598
01:10:17,770 --> 01:10:16,610
write to them and see what they say of

1599
01:10:20,020 --> 01:10:17,780
course we'd have to get a copy of the

1600
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:20,030
film and evaluate it and also see if

1601
01:10:23,950 --> 01:10:20,690
they think

1602
01:10:25,540 --> 01:10:23,960
that they based the film on any real

1603
01:10:27,970 --> 01:10:25,550
events or they were just making things

1604
01:10:29,740 --> 01:10:27,980
up well I think they wanted some like

1605
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:29,750
kind of back country folk in North

1606
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:32,090
Carolina to be starring in it so they

1607
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:33,410
picked the Brown Mountain lights as the

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the most well-known convenient you know

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01:10:42,340 --> 01:10:40,400
anomalous type of scenario from that

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01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:42,350
part of the world but you're right you

1611
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:44,330
know it's moved away from abductions

1612
01:10:50,110 --> 01:10:47,120
more into this channeling and remote

1613
01:10:51,939 --> 01:10:50,120
viewing stuff and flashing lights up in

1614
01:10:54,670 --> 01:10:51,949
the sky that's right

1615
01:10:55,300 --> 01:10:54,680
yeah well the flash the sky could be

1616
01:10:58,479 --> 01:10:55,310
anything

1617
01:11:01,630 --> 01:10:58,489
yeah the Steven Greer approach I didn't

1618
01:11:03,070 --> 01:11:01,640
want to say it we're happy to say it I

1619
01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:03,080
don't think Steven Greer is gonna sue us

1620
01:11:07,060 --> 01:11:04,400
he's had plenty of time

1621
01:11:08,979 --> 01:11:07,070
and he hasn't gathered I don't think

1622
01:11:09,540 --> 01:11:08,989
anything's landed for him yet that we

1623
01:11:12,490 --> 01:11:09,550
know of

1624
01:11:15,130 --> 01:11:12,500
not if you listen to him boy he's every

1625
01:11:21,550 --> 01:11:15,140
time he goes out he's the alien space

1626
01:11:25,689 --> 01:11:21,560
brothers validate his megalomania being

1627
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:25,699
visited by alien megalomaniacs well

1628
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:27,290
anybody they can elect themselves

1629
01:11:32,620 --> 01:11:29,449
humankind's ambassador to the universe

1630
01:11:35,229 --> 01:11:32,630
and have the hubris and and audacity to

1631
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:35,239
say if you give me X amount thousands of

1632
01:11:40,630 --> 01:11:37,370
dollars I'll train you to be a human

1633
01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:40,640
ambassador to the galaxy it's like okay

1634
01:11:46,180 --> 01:11:43,070
yeah I really have a problem with that

1635
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:46,190
in in ufology for that matter that's why

1636
01:11:50,620 --> 01:11:48,410
I didn't join MUFON and I'm not saying

1637
01:11:52,750 --> 01:11:50,630
that there is a real big comparison

1638
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:52,760
there but back when I first started us I

1639
01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:55,730
I contacted MUFON and I wanted a little

1640
01:11:59,500 --> 01:11:57,920
bit of information and they were they

1641
01:12:02,950 --> 01:11:59,510
were so tight-lipped they would do

1642
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:02,960
nothing unless I paid and joined and did

1643
01:12:06,130 --> 01:12:04,640
and then said well even if he did that

1644
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,140
you wouldn't have gotten anything and

1645
01:12:10,959 --> 01:12:08,960
it's it was just rather appalled because

1646
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:10,969
I was senator this naive impression that

1647
01:12:15,430 --> 01:12:12,650
this is a subject that everybody should

1648
01:12:16,990 --> 01:12:15,440
be able to know about for free and that

1649
01:12:19,870 --> 01:12:17,000
we should be able to spread this around

1650
01:12:23,380 --> 01:12:19,880
as much as possible and let people know

1651
01:12:25,959 --> 01:12:23,390
as a public service if nothing else so I

1652
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:25,969
set up USI and I pretty much everything

1653
01:12:30,430 --> 01:12:28,130
I do I posed for free on the website I

1654
01:12:31,919 --> 01:12:30,440
mean I'm working on a book but a lot of

1655
01:12:34,420 --> 01:12:31,929
it they'll be the same as what's online

1656
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:34,430
so how do you monetize it

1657
01:12:39,250 --> 01:12:37,730
this from the Amazon referrals I don't

1658
01:12:41,410 --> 01:12:39,260
make any money off but I've put the

1659
01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:41,420
Amazon books and stuff up there and I've

1660
01:12:45,670 --> 01:12:43,280
had a few sales but I've yet to receive

1661
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:45,680
a check I just like having the catalog

1662
01:12:50,650 --> 01:12:48,530
for the members and it looks good can

1663
01:12:52,300 --> 01:12:50,660
you have people can look at it and buy

1664
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:52,310
it stuff they want or they can just look

1665
01:12:57,460 --> 01:12:54,650
at the information that's on there I've

1666
01:13:01,150 --> 01:12:57,470
got a question for you are mufon mission

1667
01:13:03,070 --> 01:13:01,160
statement is educating mankind broad

1668
01:13:04,300 --> 01:13:03,080
benefit of humanity something like that

1669
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:04,310
what are you doing

1670
01:13:11,950 --> 01:13:09,130
Oh MUFON motto studying UFOs

1671
01:13:14,950 --> 01:13:11,960
scientifically I think they claim for

1672
01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:14,960
the benefit of humanity I'm really not

1673
01:13:19,870 --> 01:13:17,120
so sure I've seen any real scientific

1674
01:13:22,570 --> 01:13:19,880
stuff come out of no fun at all remember

1675
01:13:25,540 --> 01:13:22,580
you got to tell your $39 a year I think

1676
01:13:28,150 --> 01:13:25,550
it's a false claim I and for what I am

1677
01:13:29,650 --> 01:13:28,160
doing people can go and completely for

1678
01:13:31,090 --> 01:13:29,660
free look at any of the articles that

1679
01:13:32,980 --> 01:13:31,100
are on their request informational

1680
01:13:35,050 --> 01:13:32,990
research or no write an article put it

1681
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:35,060
up there without charging anybody

1682
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:37,040
anything for it just because I believe

1683
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:38,210
it's something that people should be

1684
01:13:43,900 --> 01:13:40,610
able to know about as freely as possible

1685
01:13:46,090 --> 01:13:43,910
and it honestly it's possible all right

1686
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:46,100
let's go to a question here

1687
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:50,690
all right MUFON they sold the license to

1688
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,120
use the name MUFON for this TV show I

1689
01:13:57,550 --> 01:13:56,000
want to ask these guys all right so I

1690
01:13:59,650 --> 01:13:57,560
beat you to it that's more synchronicity

1691
01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:59,660
and I'm gonna go round-robin here and

1692
01:14:03,010 --> 01:14:01,280
that's not the place you get the

1693
01:14:05,230 --> 01:14:03,020
hamburgers round-robin

1694
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:05,240
that's Red Rock round-robin here I'm

1695
01:14:10,090 --> 01:14:07,310
gonna ask you about hangar one okay

1696
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:10,100
Howard have you seen the show uh yeah

1697
01:14:15,190 --> 01:14:12,530
all right tell us more what was your

1698
01:14:16,990 --> 01:14:15,200
reaction it seems just like every other

1699
01:14:18,940 --> 01:14:17,000
show that out there

1700
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:18,950
Oh although I will say I heard an

1701
01:14:24,670 --> 01:14:22,130
interview with what who's the director

1702
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:24,680
of MUFON now Jan Lars and Jan

1703
01:14:29,950 --> 01:14:27,410
horizonte's been on the show he was on a

1704
01:14:32,350 --> 01:14:29,960
show I listened to and he claimed there

1705
01:14:34,300 --> 01:14:32,360
actually is a warehouse one where they

1706
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:34,310
store files which was news to me and I

1707
01:14:39,130 --> 01:14:36,770
know he's just trying to spin it because

1708
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:39,140
it seems kind of silly to me that's not

1709
01:14:44,350 --> 01:14:42,110
Walt Andres garage then according to him

1710
01:14:46,180 --> 01:14:44,360
there's an actual hangar it's the

1711
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:46,190
exterior of the hangar is what they show

1712
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:47,930
in the hangar one show

1713
01:14:53,260 --> 01:14:49,970
the interior is not what they show on

1714
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:53,270
the show correct yeah but the the show

1715
01:14:58,990 --> 01:14:55,610
itself steam there's nothing new there

1716
01:15:00,520 --> 01:14:59,000
it's the same information we've had from

1717
01:15:02,140 --> 01:15:00,530
every other show that's been out there

1718
01:15:03,700 --> 01:15:02,150
nothing new I've tried to watch the

1719
01:15:06,130 --> 01:15:03,710
first couple episodes of it but I just

1720
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:06,140
kind of tune them out the thing that

1721
01:15:10,510 --> 01:15:08,090
bothers me also about this is not

1722
01:15:12,610 --> 01:15:10,520
whether there's a hangar 1 or not which

1723
01:15:15,460 --> 01:15:12,620
i think is a minor issue it is the

1724
01:15:17,980 --> 01:15:15,470
content are they taking the content

1725
01:15:20,230 --> 01:15:17,990
giving us accurate versions of the

1726
01:15:22,540 --> 01:15:20,240
stories what about those fabricated

1727
01:15:25,030 --> 01:15:22,550
simulated documents that become so

1728
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:25,040
controversial Kurt what's your feeling

1729
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:26,690
about it we're going to split in about

1730
01:15:32,410 --> 01:15:28,850
30 seconds for a break but maybe you can

1731
01:15:35,470 --> 01:15:32,420
start now even the cover of Edward

1732
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:35,480
rappels book was was marked up in hand

1733
01:15:41,650 --> 01:15:39,170
on it was called on unidentified objects

1734
01:15:46,270 --> 01:15:41,660
the shocking truth and I looked it up

1735
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:46,280
and it was that was the name of a Kindle

1736
01:15:50,380 --> 01:15:47,930
released at the book that wasn't the

1737
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:50,390
original title at all and you know a

1738
01:15:54,820 --> 01:15:52,850
picture of the cover of the book is

1739
01:15:56,650 --> 01:15:54,830
easily available online or at your

1740
01:15:59,290 --> 01:15:56,660
library there was no reason to do

1741
01:16:01,720 --> 01:15:59,300
computer you know phony graphics for

1742
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:01,730
that but it's it's the content as you

1743
01:16:07,660 --> 01:16:05,570
say these are MUFON cases these are like

1744
01:16:10,330 --> 01:16:07,670
old National Enquirer articles about

1745
01:16:11,710 --> 01:16:10,340
UFOs that they're dramatizing and you

1746
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:11,720
know there's a problem with that which

1747
01:16:16,780 --> 01:16:13,760
we'll go into in a next segment this is

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01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:16,790
our first listener Roundtable for 2014

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we have ufology we have century we have

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ho Jack and we have so much more to come

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on the show with Jean and Kris you're in

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the pure cast

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afford to rent with these prices imagine

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a 70 by 100 foot church building for

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under sixty nine thousand dollars with

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still at historic lows you can't afford

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to wait so call 866 91 steel lock in

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you are tuned into the para cast let me

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tell you what you're gonna hear stuff

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here

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para cast are listening to round table

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first one of 2014 these are people who

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are participants in our forums listeners

1859
01:21:15,290 --> 01:21:12,210
of the show

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01:21:18,799 --> 01:21:15,300
ufology Randall Murphy Kurt Collins

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01:21:21,649 --> 01:21:18,809
known as century our Jackson known as ho

1862
01:21:24,049 --> 01:21:21,659
Jack but it comes back to this the long

1863
01:21:26,660 --> 01:21:24,059
and short of it is is that by putting

1864
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:26,670
the MU Fonz name on that show people

1865
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:28,530
think okay this is mu Fonz best cases

1866
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:33,690
and as you say guys the depiction of

1867
01:21:38,930 --> 01:21:37,170
National Enquirer style stuff doesn't

1868
01:21:41,750 --> 01:21:38,940
really help me at the National Enquirer

1869
01:21:44,029 --> 01:21:41,760
is necessarily not telling the truth we

1870
01:21:46,609 --> 01:21:44,039
know in a few key cases they're real

1871
01:21:48,469 --> 01:21:46,619
news stories they did present accurate

1872
01:21:50,450 --> 01:21:48,479
information about a certain former US

1873
01:21:53,029 --> 01:21:50,460
senator and vice presidential candidate

1874
01:21:53,930 --> 01:21:53,039
who had a baby out of wedlock with his

1875
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:53,940
girlfriend

1876
01:22:00,109 --> 01:21:57,570
they broke the story well true also Bob

1877
01:22:02,899 --> 01:22:00,119
Pratt who I looked up to and respected

1878
01:22:05,689 --> 01:22:02,909
as an investigator he wrote an

1879
01:22:08,719 --> 01:22:05,699
incredibly concise and and well

1880
01:22:12,529 --> 01:22:08,729
researched book on the Cloris cases back

1881
01:22:15,259 --> 01:22:12,539
in the late 70s early 80s he was a the

1882
01:22:16,759 --> 01:22:15,269
UFO reporter for The Enquirer and he

1883
01:22:19,819 --> 01:22:16,769
spent a lot of time on the road out

1884
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:19,829
digging into cases as as soon as he

1885
01:22:23,149 --> 01:22:21,690
heard about them he'd he'd go out there

1886
01:22:28,069 --> 01:22:23,159
and start looking into him he visited

1887
01:22:30,109 --> 01:22:28,079
the Gomez ranch I think in 77 78 or in

1888
01:22:32,209 --> 01:22:30,119
Dulce when they were having their the

1889
01:22:34,850 --> 01:22:32,219
the white hot and heavy mutilation wave

1890
01:22:36,350 --> 01:22:34,860
down there so I mean for a while the

1891
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:36,360
Enquirer was one of the best places to

1892
01:22:41,899 --> 01:22:40,170
get news stories and up to up to the you

1893
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:41,909
know up-to-date news stories on UFO

1894
01:22:45,379 --> 01:22:43,110
sightings of course you had to wade

1895
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:45,389
through all the I had a two-headed alien

1896
01:22:52,399 --> 01:22:49,170
baby mock stories but but Bob Pratt did

1897
01:22:54,140 --> 01:22:52,409
a very good job I thought for them okay

1898
01:22:56,239 --> 01:22:54,150
now if hangar 1 will stick to his

1899
01:22:57,740 --> 01:22:56,249
material I have no problem with it

1900
01:22:59,360 --> 01:22:57,750
didn't I hope on you

1901
01:23:02,870 --> 01:22:59,370
to have a show that followed the Stars

1902
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:02,880
team around briefly I remember so well

1903
01:23:07,940 --> 01:23:05,970
actually one last example episodes yeah

1904
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:07,950
and that was badly that's one of the

1905
01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:10,290
better shows I've seen out there real

1906
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:12,960
people do an investigation the the

1907
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:15,840
excuse that I've heard from from MUFON

1908
01:23:20,150 --> 01:23:18,000
people is that this is what the

1909
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:20,160
producers were on it and for them to

1910
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:24,330
compromise the integrity and to do this

1911
01:23:28,370 --> 01:23:25,920
kind of material businesses say these

1912
01:23:31,370 --> 01:23:28,380
are not for at least for the early shows

1913
01:23:34,700 --> 01:23:31,380
they're not MUFON cases they're you know

1914
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:34,710
scraps are in in maybe a folder that in

1915
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:36,810
like the well one they did recently was

1916
01:23:43,820 --> 01:23:40,890
the Aurora case the the airship crash

1917
01:23:46,340 --> 01:23:43,830
with the Martian and I think that's

1918
01:23:48,410 --> 01:23:46,350
widely regarded as a hoax and that was

1919
01:23:50,780 --> 01:23:48,420
covered as if that was a genuine case

1920
01:23:52,460 --> 01:23:50,790
and there just was nothing of substance

1921
01:23:54,890 --> 01:23:52,470
there that's what I'm trying to say and

1922
01:23:56,690 --> 01:23:54,900
and if that happened once in a while I

1923
01:23:58,730 --> 01:23:56,700
guess that would be okay but just show

1924
01:24:02,240 --> 01:23:58,740
after show presents things like the

1925
01:24:04,460 --> 01:24:02,250
Jackie Gleason and Nixon view annealing

1926
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:04,470
popsicles as if that's a a real

1927
01:24:11,870 --> 01:24:08,610
presidential UFO story it's just it's

1928
01:24:15,290 --> 01:24:11,880
it's embarrassing and I've heard UFO

1929
01:24:19,340 --> 01:24:15,300
investigators say so well the worst part

1930
01:24:22,300 --> 01:24:19,350
of it all is that the skeptics the UFO

1931
01:24:25,250 --> 01:24:22,310
skeptics are using this as another

1932
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:25,260
vehicle in which to attack the reality

1933
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:27,360
of UFOs I say look this is one of the

1934
01:24:32,540 --> 01:24:29,730
major organizations they're involved in

1935
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:32,550
this TV show with dumb cases so how

1936
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:33,690
could you take any of this stuff

1937
01:24:39,980 --> 01:24:36,930
seriously consistent something that it's

1938
01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:39,990
really been bugging me I'll continue to

1939
01:24:45,020 --> 01:24:42,480
talk about he shut me up but there was i

1940
01:24:47,630 --> 01:24:45,030
I got in touch with someone who had his

1941
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:47,640
case that he had personally investigated

1942
01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:49,410
it's pretty much an exclusive case and

1943
01:24:52,730 --> 01:24:51,120
they featured it on on the show and I

1944
01:24:55,130 --> 01:24:52,740
don't want to say who it was because I

1945
01:24:57,260 --> 01:24:55,140
don't think he wants to be identified or

1946
01:24:59,600 --> 01:24:57,270
associated with it but he felt that they

1947
01:25:03,050 --> 01:24:59,610
just used his material without giving

1948
01:25:06,440 --> 01:25:03,060
any credit and were still they got

1949
01:25:08,180 --> 01:25:06,450
everything wrong and in discussion with

1950
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:08,190
him he said it's almost as if the

1951
01:25:11,180 --> 01:25:10,050
producers were trying to make MUFON look

1952
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:11,190
bad

1953
01:25:16,459 --> 01:25:14,610
I started thinking what if they did what

1954
01:25:17,959 --> 01:25:16,469
would they do differently if they were

1955
01:25:20,750 --> 01:25:17,969
trying to embarrass you with a folk

1956
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:20,760
community and I was thinking well except

1957
01:25:25,910 --> 01:25:23,250
for some you know green rubber Roswell

1958
01:25:27,890 --> 01:25:25,920
alien Thanks footage I really don't know

1959
01:25:31,220 --> 01:25:27,900
what what help they could do is it's

1960
01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:31,230
pretty bad well they definitely lifted

1961
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:33,840
some of my material that I published

1962
01:25:38,150 --> 01:25:36,239
about identifying hot spot regions and

1963
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:38,160
of course there was no citations there

1964
01:25:45,650 --> 01:25:42,449
the work of dr. Lou Tori which I was

1965
01:25:48,350 --> 01:25:45,660
inspired by to do my research and come

1966
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:48,360
up with my ideas they just lifted it

1967
01:25:56,090 --> 01:25:51,810
lock stock and barrel and I found that

1968
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:56,100
rather I don't know just it just it

1969
01:26:01,400 --> 01:25:57,449
didn't surprise me in the least

1970
01:26:03,380 --> 01:26:01,410
I didn't even yell at my TV maybe you

1971
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:03,390
felt like you'd like to throw a brick

1972
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:06,090
into the TV set no I'm just I'm just uh

1973
01:26:10,370 --> 01:26:08,370
you know I think MUFON really their

1974
01:26:12,590 --> 01:26:10,380
intentions at least on the surface

1975
01:26:14,150 --> 01:26:12,600
appear honorable and I think they really

1976
01:26:16,990 --> 01:26:14,160
are trying to provide a public service

1977
01:26:20,030 --> 01:26:17,000
but I just I just always go back to that

1978
01:26:22,220 --> 01:26:20,040
that very uncomfortable fact that six

1979
01:26:23,780 --> 01:26:22,230
months or so after the closing of

1980
01:26:26,780 --> 01:26:23,790
Project Blue Book all of a sudden you

1981
01:26:29,150 --> 01:26:26,790
have the start of MUFON and you know

1982
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:29,160
there's always been kind of a size and

1983
01:26:33,530 --> 01:26:31,290
rumblings over the years that MUFON has

1984
01:26:35,900 --> 01:26:33,540
always been compromised and it's it's

1985
01:26:38,570 --> 01:26:35,910
just a PR arm basically for the

1986
01:26:40,220 --> 01:26:38,580
government to try to you know show that

1987
01:26:41,780 --> 01:26:40,230
there there's a civilian group doing

1988
01:26:45,229 --> 01:26:41,790
some work but but nothing ever comes

1989
01:26:48,860 --> 01:26:45,239
from it I just it's just you know why

1990
01:26:52,250 --> 01:26:48,870
why go through you know almost 50 years

1991
01:26:54,140 --> 01:26:52,260
of work 45 years of work and and what do

1992
01:26:55,610 --> 01:26:54,150
they have to show for it I mean except

1993
01:26:57,610 --> 01:26:55,620
for a couple of good journal articles

1994
01:27:00,800 --> 01:26:57,620
over the years every now and then and

1995
01:27:02,060 --> 01:27:00,810
maybe some statistical analysis you know

1996
01:27:04,250 --> 01:27:02,070
you have to wonder about garbage in

1997
01:27:06,979 --> 01:27:04,260
garbage out but they really haven't done

1998
01:27:09,260 --> 01:27:06,989
much I was asked to join and become a

1999
01:27:10,670 --> 01:27:09,270
state section director and you know I

2000
01:27:14,060 --> 01:27:10,680
thought about it for a while and I said

2001
01:27:17,390 --> 01:27:14,070
well okay a quid pro quo I'll give you

2002
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:17,400
my material if you can give me some of

2003
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:18,810
the cases that I'm interested in

2004
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:21,570
researching further and it was like you

2005
01:27:24,979 --> 01:27:23,730
know I I farted it at a cocktail party

2006
01:27:28,370 --> 01:27:24,989
or something

2007
01:27:31,190 --> 01:27:28,380
it was complete silence and in you know

2008
01:27:33,890 --> 01:27:31,200
I often joked back in the early 90s that

2009
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:33,900
God forbid a tornado should hit Seguin

2010
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:36,690
Texas and hit Walt Anders's garage

2011
01:27:41,330 --> 01:27:38,610
we'd have MUFON reports spread across

2012
01:27:42,740 --> 01:27:41,340
the Midwest I mean to me that might be

2013
01:27:45,500 --> 01:27:42,750
the only way to get them out of that

2014
01:27:47,870 --> 01:27:45,510
garage well no they do have a database

2015
01:27:50,570 --> 01:27:47,880
now that's extremely awkward and very

2016
01:27:52,190 --> 01:27:50,580
cumbersome to try to pull anything out

2017
01:27:54,290 --> 01:27:52,200
of it but in theory you should be able

2018
01:27:56,270 --> 01:27:54,300
to go there and and pull out information

2019
01:27:58,640 --> 01:27:56,280
on cases but you've got to have a a

2020
01:28:01,760 --> 01:27:58,650
bunch of very qualified dates times

2021
01:28:03,890 --> 01:28:01,770
locations that sort of thing in order to

2022
01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:03,900
really be effective with your search of

2023
01:28:08,270 --> 01:28:06,239
course then how how many more cases do

2024
01:28:11,090 --> 01:28:08,280
we really need to be able to say okay

2025
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:11,100
we've got enough there's enough people

2026
01:28:14,660 --> 01:28:12,480
out there who have seen them they're

2027
01:28:16,130 --> 01:28:14,670
been tracked on radar they've been

2028
01:28:18,770 --> 01:28:16,140
photographed even if the photographs

2029
01:28:20,690 --> 01:28:18,780
aren't that good but we can go and look

2030
01:28:22,580 --> 01:28:20,700
up official United States Air Force

2031
01:28:24,830 --> 01:28:22,590
archives one of one of the best that

2032
01:28:26,090 --> 01:28:24,840
I've found it and it seems to be really

2033
01:28:27,860 --> 01:28:26,100
underused it's called the Blue Book

2034
01:28:29,660 --> 01:28:27,870
archive it's called Blue Book

2035
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:29,670
archive.org you can go there and you can

2036
01:28:34,910 --> 01:28:32,010
sift through the actual microfiche from

2037
01:28:37,340 --> 01:28:34,920
the USAF files during Project Blue Book

2038
01:28:39,260 --> 01:28:37,350
and you can I've pulled them up and I

2039
01:28:42,050 --> 01:28:39,270
post some of them out and I've recreated

2040
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:42,060
them on the usi website now I haven't

2041
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:44,370
caked and like you were talking about

2042
01:28:48,260 --> 01:28:45,810
with other people and I've given the

2043
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:48,270
credit in the link but I've taken the

2044
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:50,130
exact microfiche and put a paper

2045
01:28:55,340 --> 01:28:52,050
background on them and clarifies them a

2046
01:28:57,410 --> 01:28:55,350
bit and you've got things from the chief

2047
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:57,420
counterintelligence division Director of

2048
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:00,239
Special Investigations saying in a

2049
01:29:04,729 --> 01:29:03,090
document that when one of the f94 is

2050
01:29:07,190 --> 01:29:04,739
that closed in on one of the objects

2051
01:29:10,940 --> 01:29:07,200
back in the 52 cases that was being

2052
01:29:13,130 --> 01:29:10,950
tracked on radar while being watched by

2053
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:13,140
the pilot in the aircraft closed in on

2054
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:14,850
the thing that it just zoomed away it's

2055
01:29:20,750 --> 01:29:17,210
phenomenal speed and this is a

2056
01:29:23,209 --> 01:29:20,760
undeniably genuine document that that

2057
01:29:25,970 --> 01:29:23,219
case we have two different radar

2058
01:29:27,830 --> 01:29:25,980
stations military and civilian that

2059
01:29:29,870 --> 01:29:27,840
we're tracking them with people on the

2060
01:29:31,459 --> 01:29:29,880
ground and pilots in the air and yes

2061
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:31,469
there were temperature inversions and

2062
01:29:35,510 --> 01:29:33,330
yes there was some other things but in

2063
01:29:36,590 --> 01:29:35,520
the end when you set that out there's

2064
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:36,600
enough there to go

2065
01:29:41,449 --> 01:29:38,729
no there was also

2066
01:29:43,069 --> 01:29:41,459
thing out there how many more do we need

2067
01:29:46,129 --> 01:29:43,079
we've already got hundreds if not

2068
01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:46,139
thousands of decent report well that

2069
01:29:50,810 --> 01:29:47,760
goes back to the statement that I

2070
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:50,820
believe which is that all you need is

2071
01:29:55,910 --> 01:29:54,090
one case that you can prove a hundred

2072
01:29:57,469 --> 01:29:55,920
percent that's all you need to show

2073
01:29:59,870 --> 01:29:57,479
there's a UFO a mystery and the fact

2074
01:30:02,449 --> 01:29:59,880
that you have thousands of cases only

2075
01:30:05,569 --> 01:30:02,459
helps if we could get enough about each

2076
01:30:06,259 --> 01:30:05,579
case to really show some kind of final

2077
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:06,269
answers

2078
01:30:11,180 --> 01:30:08,610
I'll mean Roswell I think Roswell is

2079
01:30:12,949 --> 01:30:11,190
just gonna sit there and you're gonna

2080
01:30:14,449 --> 01:30:12,959
see a little bit of a spark here in

2081
01:30:16,399 --> 01:30:14,459
there every few years but it's never

2082
01:30:17,779 --> 01:30:16,409
going to go anywhere but you know what

2083
01:30:20,469 --> 01:30:17,789
we're gonna have to go somewhere right

2084
01:30:24,100 --> 01:30:20,479
now into a strange realm called

2085
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:24,110
commercials a commercial realm we have

2086
01:30:47,660 --> 01:30:27,690
sentry and ho Jack and ufology joining

2087
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:47,670
gene and Chrissy first game attack of

2088
01:30:51,229 --> 01:30:49,170
the rockets and it was a critically

2089
01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:51,239
acclaimed success and now there is the

2090
01:30:55,370 --> 01:30:53,249
coming of the protectors a former

2091
01:30:57,589 --> 01:30:55,380
military intelligence man is contacted

2092
01:31:00,169 --> 01:30:57,599
by a space woman in a dream a dream that

2093
01:31:01,759 --> 01:31:00,179
turns out to be a nightmare because evil

2094
01:31:03,020 --> 01:31:01,769
forces on our distant planet are

2095
01:31:05,689 --> 01:31:03,030
planning to conquer the earth

2096
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:05,699
this is gripping science fiction of the

2097
01:31:10,370 --> 01:31:08,489
classic kind attack of the rock odes and

2098
01:31:12,140 --> 01:31:10,380
the coming of the protectors find out

2099
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:12,150
more at rawhides calm

2100
01:31:18,140 --> 01:31:16,530
that's rockets our Ock oids calm so

2101
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the gold standard of paranormal radio

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I see here we're getting these oak rolls

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sounds of Chris O'Brien don't ask me to

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say that word again we've got a listener

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roundtable with ufology sentry and hoe

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jack and we're exploring the ins and

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outs of the UFO field so I'm gonna ask

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around the round table do you think

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we'll ever solve the UFO mystery and if

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so how Kurt Collins but easy one I think

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01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:42,840
it could take lifetimes I mean look at

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some of the different Sciences and and

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just you know and some of the scientists

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01:35:52,940 --> 01:35:49,770
came out of some kind of shaking ones

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like alchemy you know our astronomy book

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01:35:59,480 --> 01:35:55,800
came from astrology this might take a

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01:36:01,670 --> 01:35:59,490
long time centuries to sort out I'd like

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01:36:03,350 --> 01:36:01,680
to answer to Maura but you know I think

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01:36:07,340 --> 01:36:03,360
it may be something for our race not for

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01:36:10,850 --> 01:36:07,350
a generation to find the answer all

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01:36:12,050 --> 01:36:10,860
right ufology well I'm not ashamed to

2213
01:36:13,820 --> 01:36:12,060
say it I think there's enough

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01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:13,830
information out there already that any

2215
01:36:17,180 --> 01:36:15,930
intelligent person can go out there and

2216
01:36:18,710 --> 01:36:17,190
sit through it all and come to a

2217
01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:18,720
reasonable conclusion of alien

2218
01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:21,450
visitations of reality it's that simple

2219
01:36:25,340 --> 01:36:23,520
there they've been here whether they're

2220
01:36:26,630 --> 01:36:25,350
here right at this very second I don't

2221
01:36:29,090 --> 01:36:26,640
know but they've been here in recent

2222
01:36:31,130 --> 01:36:29,100
history and whether or not they're

2223
01:36:32,690 --> 01:36:31,140
coming back we don't know we maybe don't

2224
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:32,700
know exactly where they're from but we

2225
01:36:39,260 --> 01:36:35,850
know alien visitations real okay Howard

2226
01:36:41,540 --> 01:36:39,270
I think only if they want us to know

2227
01:36:43,010 --> 01:36:41,550
this seems to be the only way as long as

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01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:43,020
there's an advantage for the government

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01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:45,690
to keep a secret and as long as they

2230
01:36:49,910 --> 01:36:47,520
don't want us to know they're here we're

2231
01:36:51,860 --> 01:36:49,920
not gonna know the public in general is

2232
01:36:52,250 --> 01:36:51,870
not going to 100% know that they are

2233
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:52,260
here

2234
01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:54,570
you think the government really has any

2235
01:36:58,340 --> 01:36:56,880
information that they're hiding I tend

2236
01:37:00,380 --> 01:36:58,350
to think that they know they're there

2237
01:37:02,990 --> 01:37:00,390
but they don't know what they are well I

2238
01:37:04,580 --> 01:37:03,000
think it's it goes without saying that

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01:37:07,340 --> 01:37:04,590
they know they've got the most

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sophisticated surveillance equipment in

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01:37:12,350 --> 01:37:09,060
the entire world they've got a space

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01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:12,360
fence and and satellites up beyond the

2243
01:37:16,730 --> 01:37:14,850
moon they're watching all the time they

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01:37:18,380 --> 01:37:16,740
know what's going on of course they know

2245
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:18,390
they're here yeah that's why they're

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01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:21,330
that much more confused than we are well

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01:37:25,220 --> 01:37:23,130
I don't know how what do you mean by

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01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:25,230
confused if they're if they can see it

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01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:27,210
on a radar well enough to scramble jets

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01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:29,850
after it that seems a lot less compete

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01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:31,170
and somebody who doesn't really know

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01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:32,850
what they're looking at well just

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01:37:35,900 --> 01:37:34,290
because you're reacting to something

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01:37:38,210 --> 01:37:35,910
doesn't necessarily know you know who

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the perpetrators where the players are

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and what their intentions are yeah we

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01:37:43,970 --> 01:37:42,750
might not know all the real details but

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01:37:45,380 --> 01:37:43,980
I think we know enough to know that

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01:37:48,050 --> 01:37:45,390
they're not from around here they're

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01:37:51,170 --> 01:37:48,060
real they're alien we've tracked them

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01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:51,180
we've chased them numerous times and the

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people who have the equipment to be able

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01:37:57,170 --> 01:37:54,840
to monitor and track them have been

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doing it for a long time and has to have

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01:38:02,450 --> 01:37:58,920
a lot more information about them then

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01:38:07,250 --> 01:38:02,460
it didn't go public that just stands to

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01:38:09,950 --> 01:38:07,260
reason yeah well just the NRO alone I

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01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:09,960
mean according to Ron Regehr who helped

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01:38:16,030 --> 01:38:12,690
design optic systems and and ran teams

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for the aerospace industry for 30 years

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01:38:21,380 --> 01:38:18,870
working on the actual optics of some of

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01:38:24,460 --> 01:38:21,390
these very sensitive spy satellites and

2273
01:38:27,350 --> 01:38:24,470
you know more public space program stuff

2274
01:38:30,230 --> 01:38:27,360
he basically came flat out and told me

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01:38:31,930 --> 01:38:30,240
that you know I forget what the date was

2276
01:38:34,670 --> 01:38:31,940
but he said pretty much every satellite

2277
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:34,680
put up in the space that has any sort of

2278
01:38:40,970 --> 01:38:36,930
monitoring capabilities is pointed

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01:38:43,730 --> 01:38:40,980
outwards that all these are giant UFO

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01:38:45,650 --> 01:38:43,740
detectors and he even had a talk called

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01:38:49,010 --> 01:38:45,660
how do you build a 300 million dollar

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01:38:51,710 --> 01:38:49,020
UFO detector and he very artfully got

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01:38:56,180 --> 01:38:51,720
around some sensitive material and was

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01:38:58,160 --> 01:38:56,190
able to lead you up to the question and

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01:39:00,050 --> 01:38:58,170
then not pose the answer and give you

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01:39:01,820 --> 01:39:00,060
enough information that you could that's

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01:39:05,810 --> 01:39:01,830
discerned on your own what the answer

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01:39:07,220 --> 01:39:05,820
was in terms of camera resolution you

2289
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:07,230
know state of the art technology what

2290
01:39:11,780 --> 01:39:09,930
are we actually capable of doing and the

2291
01:39:14,870 --> 01:39:11,790
fact that someone like a Colonel retired

2292
01:39:16,550 --> 01:39:14,880
lieutenant colonel John Alexander would

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01:39:18,020 --> 01:39:16,560
write a whole book on UFOs and never

2294
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:18,030
once mentioned the National

2295
01:39:25,580 --> 01:39:22,730
Reconnaissance Organization it just

2296
01:39:26,990 --> 01:39:25,590
they definitely know a lot more than we

2297
01:39:29,480 --> 01:39:27,000
do and that's why I think they're just

2298
01:39:31,610 --> 01:39:29,490
they're a lot more confusing we are oh I

2299
01:39:33,370 --> 01:39:31,620
think the absence there speaks volumes

2300
01:39:37,370 --> 01:39:33,380
Chris you're absolutely right

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01:39:40,490 --> 01:39:37,380
no I also repeat what I said in the

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01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:40,500
previous we show that our government is

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01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:43,290
so disbelieved if the president of you

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01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:43,530
know

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01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:48,090
States came and said UFOs are real in so

2306
01:39:52,669 --> 01:39:50,610
many words you can fill in the blanks we

2307
01:39:55,850 --> 01:39:52,679
have people like Fox News saying it was

2308
01:39:58,609 --> 01:39:55,860
a way to hide the truth about Benghazi

2309
01:40:01,100 --> 01:39:58,619
or the IRS scandal or fast and furious

2310
01:40:04,189 --> 01:40:01,110
or something like that or Solyndra

2311
01:40:06,470 --> 01:40:04,199
oh yeah the skeptics would deny it until

2312
01:40:08,299 --> 01:40:06,480
they basically got a mothership cruise I

2313
01:40:10,430 --> 01:40:08,309
mean that's just a way that it goes with

2314
01:40:14,470 --> 01:40:10,440
them and if they had a mothership cruise

2315
01:40:17,330 --> 01:40:14,480
of course they'd probably deny it

2316
01:40:19,580 --> 01:40:17,340
possibly I bet you if Obama came out

2317
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:19,590
with an alien you know a little alien

2318
01:40:24,020 --> 01:40:22,530
walking beside him hand-in-hand that

2319
01:40:25,819 --> 01:40:24,030
half the country would would think it

2320
01:40:29,540 --> 01:40:25,829
was just some big publicity stunt

2321
01:40:32,180 --> 01:40:29,550
wouldn't believe it same and that would

2322
01:40:34,189 --> 01:40:32,190
be reasonable I mean there's a skeptics

2323
01:40:36,890 --> 01:40:34,199
have a lot of really reasonable point

2324
01:40:39,229 --> 01:40:36,900
it's when they go beyond that it starts

2325
01:40:41,089 --> 01:40:39,239
to bother me yeah they move the

2326
01:40:43,609 --> 01:40:41,099
goalposts they go far beyond what's

2327
01:40:47,089 --> 01:40:43,619
reasonable in terms of their objections

2328
01:40:50,510 --> 01:40:47,099
right into straight denial yeah yeah the

2329
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:50,520
the debunker no it isn't no it does not

2330
01:40:56,899 --> 01:40:54,690
I kind of don't know it isn't your lingo

2331
01:41:00,439 --> 01:40:56,909
sorry you don't like labels

2332
01:41:03,109 --> 01:41:00,449
oh well no there's the believer skeptics

2333
01:41:04,580 --> 01:41:03,119
I mean it when anybody leaves a reason

2334
01:41:06,290 --> 01:41:04,590
behind and they're just operating off

2335
01:41:08,450 --> 01:41:06,300
beliefs I just don't think you can get

2336
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:08,460
anything done and and that that's what

2337
01:41:12,890 --> 01:41:11,130
it is for so many people is is they crap

2338
01:41:15,109 --> 01:41:12,900
they made your mind up early on on the

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01:41:17,529 --> 01:41:15,119
topic and and then you know they're

2340
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:17,539
basically the eyes and ears are shot and

2341
01:41:22,490 --> 01:41:20,010
well their mouth is open and they can

2342
01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:22,500
teach you to say you're wrong well maybe

2343
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:24,239
some of them need I think what it would

2344
01:41:28,010 --> 01:41:26,130
take is waking up with an extremely sore

2345
01:41:30,529 --> 01:41:28,020
butt with a note written in Klingon

2346
01:41:32,870 --> 01:41:30,539
saying thank you for last night if

2347
01:41:35,569 --> 01:41:32,880
anybody here can say that in Klingon I

2348
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:35,579
love to hear anyone speak Klingon no I

2349
01:41:44,689 --> 01:41:42,449
guess one show I have been enjoying

2350
01:41:46,790 --> 01:41:44,699
actually I haven't seen the hangar one

2351
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:46,800
but I've been taking in speaking of

2352
01:41:53,029 --> 01:41:50,159
skeptics the new cosmos series with Neil

2353
01:41:53,979 --> 01:41:53,039
deGrasse Tyson and that's been fairly

2354
01:41:57,140 --> 01:41:53,989
enjoyable

2355
01:41:58,190 --> 01:41:57,150
despite his anti ufology stance it

2356
01:42:00,170 --> 01:41:58,200
a pretty good show with some great

2357
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:00,180
special effect yeah I'm very good very

2358
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:04,050
good graphics and in CG and and I think

2359
01:42:08,990 --> 01:42:05,730
Neal's doing a good job on it I think

2360
01:42:12,770 --> 01:42:09,000
some of it is a little how would I put

2361
01:42:15,370 --> 01:42:12,780
this kind of dumbed down and almost

2362
01:42:18,050 --> 01:42:15,380
condescending to the viewer a little bit

2363
01:42:19,730 --> 01:42:18,060
astronomy 101 when we've already seen it

2364
01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:19,740
enough times but yeah it's know pretty

2365
01:42:23,390 --> 01:42:21,600
good show and I think for the average

2366
01:42:25,340 --> 01:42:23,400
person yeah I think it's it's a very

2367
01:42:27,890 --> 01:42:25,350
very good show it's very educational it

2368
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:27,900
makes you stop and go wow I didn't know

2369
01:42:34,250 --> 01:42:31,890
that one of the despite my my pro youth

2370
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:34,260
UFO stance I think it's incredibly

2371
01:42:40,010 --> 01:42:36,290
important to look at the science as well

2372
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:40,020
people need to understand real science

2373
01:42:44,690 --> 01:42:42,000
how it works why the skeptics are

2374
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:44,700
skeptical why the genuine scientists are

2375
01:42:51,230 --> 01:42:48,810
standoffish they can't really say okay

2376
01:42:53,540 --> 01:42:51,240
UFOs are here because they just simply

2377
01:42:55,250 --> 01:42:53,550
don't have the evidence if they did if

2378
01:42:57,680 --> 01:42:55,260
they have the kind of evidence they need

2379
01:43:00,350 --> 01:42:57,690
to work with to be able to analyze it

2380
01:43:02,510 --> 01:43:00,360
put it in a spectrometer look at it

2381
01:43:04,250 --> 01:43:02,520
under an electron microscope drill into

2382
01:43:06,050 --> 01:43:04,260
it take pictures of it all bad stuff

2383
01:43:08,420 --> 01:43:06,060
that's fine they could do that and I'm

2384
01:43:10,460 --> 01:43:08,430
sure they'd be more than happy to it's

2385
01:43:13,340 --> 01:43:10,470
just that for the most part they don't

2386
01:43:16,070 --> 01:43:13,350
have that of it and my thing is that

2387
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:16,080
well I think we have other evidence that

2388
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:18,000
is just as valid for a number of reasons

2389
01:43:23,900 --> 01:43:21,210
people aren't very good detectors

2390
01:43:26,030 --> 01:43:23,910
themselves our eyes our senses are very

2391
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:26,040
good at picking up things and discerning

2392
01:43:29,510 --> 01:43:27,810
what to do and getting us from A to B

2393
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:29,520
and seeing what's going on and most of

2394
01:43:34,700 --> 01:43:33,210
the time we can identify anything that

2395
01:43:37,370 --> 01:43:34,710
we're looking at with reasonable

2396
01:43:39,440 --> 01:43:37,380
accuracy so when something odd like a

2397
01:43:42,830 --> 01:43:39,450
UFO comes along and a person sees it

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01:43:44,590 --> 01:43:42,840
clearly not too far away enough to know

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01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:44,600
that this is an airplane or helicopter

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01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:47,610
anything else from earth they've got in

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01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:49,650
their database and we're all pretty

2402
01:43:54,140 --> 01:43:52,530
well-educated these days I think it's

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01:43:56,330 --> 01:43:54,150
reasonable to say that they're actually

2404
01:43:58,610 --> 01:43:56,340
looking at something alien they're not

2405
01:44:00,530 --> 01:43:58,620
simply the most latest spy plane or

2406
01:44:02,750 --> 01:44:00,540
something like that let me ask you a

2407
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:02,760
kind of left-field question then do you

2408
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:05,370
think what people see in a UFO sighting

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is the actual phenomena well yes

2410
01:44:13,159 --> 01:44:11,039
absolutely if you're looking at some

2411
01:44:14,839 --> 01:44:13,169
there's a phenomenon that actually

2412
01:44:17,209 --> 01:44:14,849
having an impact on your sensory

2413
01:44:19,639 --> 01:44:17,219
perception so you've got photons

2414
01:44:21,739 --> 01:44:19,649
entering your eye hitting your retina we

2415
01:44:23,449 --> 01:44:21,749
know all about the physiological changes

2416
01:44:25,009 --> 01:44:23,459
and the measurements of the eye in the

2417
01:44:28,669 --> 01:44:25,019
retina and the brain and how it sees

2418
01:44:30,049 --> 01:44:28,679
things and just simply hallucinating

2419
01:44:31,969 --> 01:44:30,059
things out of thin air is actually

2420
01:44:33,889 --> 01:44:31,979
pretty rare I'm not talking about

2421
01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:33,899
hallucinations here but I wanted to

2422
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:35,280
raise that question we get into more of

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it in a moment here's the requisite plug

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[Applause]

2497
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:47,700
welcome back to the para cast the gold

2498
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standard of paranormal radio and now

2499
01:48:02,300 --> 01:48:00,360
here's Jane Steinberg you notice as he

2500
01:48:04,340 --> 01:48:02,310
progresses through the episode Chris

2501
01:48:06,980 --> 01:48:04,350
tries to vary the pace there Chris

2502
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:06,990
O'Brien we're not going to self promote

2503
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:08,010
his book anymore

2504
01:48:12,710 --> 01:48:10,170
we had a listener who complained that we

2505
01:48:14,930 --> 01:48:12,720
mentioned stalking the herd too much too

2506
01:48:17,030 --> 01:48:14,940
many times so the question is here can

2507
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:17,040
we say stalking the herd five times

2508
01:48:22,250 --> 01:48:20,370
without twisting our tongue I have a

2509
01:48:24,140 --> 01:48:22,260
list of tongue twisters here I wonder

2510
01:48:26,390 --> 01:48:24,150
how stalking the herd stalking the herd

2511
01:48:28,130 --> 01:48:26,400
stalking the herd stalking the herd

2512
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:28,140
stalking the herd there we go we

2513
01:48:32,690 --> 01:48:30,210
mentioned it five times that listener

2514
01:48:36,410 --> 01:48:32,700
will now never hear us again so I was

2515
01:48:38,690 --> 01:48:36,420
saying Randle are we seeing the actual

2516
01:48:42,410 --> 01:48:38,700
image or are we interpreting something

2517
01:48:44,270 --> 01:48:42,420
so alien that we can't see the reality

2518
01:48:46,820 --> 01:48:44,280
behind it you wouldn't believe that

2519
01:48:49,310 --> 01:48:46,830
Randle at all well what I'm what

2520
01:48:51,170 --> 01:48:49,320
happened is that when the photons hit

2521
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:51,180
our eyes they create an image in the

2522
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:52,770
back of our retina and our brain turns

2523
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:54,210
it into a picture we don't really have

2524
01:48:59,270 --> 01:48:56,730
any choice about that now or we have a

2525
01:49:02,030 --> 01:48:59,280
choice as to what our brain thinks it's

2526
01:49:03,770 --> 01:49:02,040
seeing yeah our brain might say well is

2527
01:49:05,750 --> 01:49:03,780
that an airplane and then compare it to

2528
01:49:07,370 --> 01:49:05,760
our you know our memory database of

2529
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:07,380
airplanes and go no that's not an

2530
01:49:11,210 --> 01:49:09,690
airplane where is it a helicopter and we

2531
01:49:13,610 --> 01:49:11,220
can run through a whole series of things

2532
01:49:15,230 --> 01:49:13,620
really quickly in our minds and fairly

2533
01:49:17,900 --> 01:49:15,240
quickly determine either what something

2534
01:49:19,910 --> 01:49:17,910
is and if it's not that then it's

2535
01:49:21,710 --> 01:49:19,920
something else and so if it's something

2536
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:21,720
else and we don't know what it is and it

2537
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:23,370
doesn't configure to anything that we

2538
01:49:28,370 --> 01:49:25,170
know of then by definition that's an

2539
01:49:31,730 --> 01:49:28,380
something alien yes but is it possible

2540
01:49:34,940 --> 01:49:31,740
here is so alien that we interpret it in

2541
01:49:36,980 --> 01:49:34,950
the way we understand things so we see

2542
01:49:39,110 --> 01:49:36,990
them as possible spaceships now because

2543
01:49:41,780 --> 01:49:39,120
that's the way our culture is tuned oh

2544
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:41,790
yeah we might make a presumption saying

2545
01:49:47,270 --> 01:49:44,130
oh yeah okay that's a UFO well that's a

2546
01:49:50,330 --> 01:49:47,280
an et a spacecraft from and I'm not

2547
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:50,340
really trying to take this literally

2548
01:49:54,380 --> 01:49:51,930
here I'm speaking of something far more

2549
01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:54,390
difficult Kirk do you get a sense of

2550
01:49:59,780 --> 01:49:56,880
what I'm telling you well I do

2551
01:50:02,390 --> 01:49:59,790
about that psychology a lot because it

2552
01:50:04,399 --> 01:50:02,400
really got started because of the cash -

2553
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:04,409
on you because you know they interpreted

2554
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:06,810
that the UFO and they saw is it's a

2555
01:50:10,459 --> 01:50:08,250
biblical event at the end of the world

2556
01:50:12,500 --> 01:50:10,469
and you know I don't know how I've never

2557
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:12,510
been able to find out how long that they

2558
01:50:16,550 --> 01:50:14,730
thought that was the case but there was

2559
01:50:18,919 --> 01:50:16,560
all sorts of things going on and so I've

2560
01:50:20,870 --> 01:50:18,929
been looking into the affected uh that

2561
01:50:23,660 --> 01:50:20,880
adrenaline has you know the physiology

2562
01:50:25,820 --> 01:50:23,670
of the other experience and how it

2563
01:50:27,770 --> 01:50:25,830
affects your vision and and even your

2564
01:50:30,939 --> 01:50:27,780
memory I mean there's a lotta there's a

2565
01:50:33,379 --> 01:50:30,949
lot of things that play there but I

2566
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:33,389
think you can kind of break it down in a

2567
01:50:39,020 --> 01:50:35,850
way you know you have the source of the

2568
01:50:41,450 --> 01:50:39,030
UFO and then maybe maybe the signal it

2569
01:50:45,860 --> 01:50:41,460
sends is is not exactly the same thing

2570
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:45,870
and the receivers are brain and then we

2571
01:50:49,820 --> 01:50:47,850
relay the information you know basically

2572
01:50:51,740 --> 01:50:49,830
through our memory you know there's all

2573
01:50:55,340 --> 01:50:51,750
these barriers from the object to

2574
01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:55,350
sharing with another person and I think

2575
01:50:59,899 --> 01:50:57,810
that there are number of ways it can get

2576
01:51:02,270 --> 01:50:59,909
jumbled up you know especially it's

2577
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:02,280
something's completely you know which

2578
01:51:07,010 --> 01:51:05,489
it's all inspiring experience powered

2579
01:51:07,930 --> 01:51:07,020
what's your reaction to this crazy

2580
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:07,940
question

2581
01:51:13,610 --> 01:51:10,800
it's hard to say my own experience when

2582
01:51:15,260 --> 01:51:13,620
I saw the UFO I thought what I have no

2583
01:51:18,890 --> 01:51:15,270
doubt that if there was something

2584
01:51:20,810 --> 01:51:18,900
physically there in the sky so I know

2585
01:51:23,180 --> 01:51:20,820
your mind can play tricks on you

2586
01:51:25,790 --> 01:51:23,190
or maybe the tricksters playing tricks

2587
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:25,800
on you but there's something there

2588
01:51:31,370 --> 01:51:28,170
there's some phenomena that does leave

2589
01:51:32,990 --> 01:51:31,380
trace evidence occasionally on the

2590
01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:33,000
ground so I think there are a real

2591
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:35,520
object that are flying around in the sky

2592
01:51:42,379 --> 01:51:39,170
that are unexplained here's an example

2593
01:51:43,669 --> 01:51:42,389
possibly that might shed some light and

2594
01:51:46,790 --> 01:51:43,679
I think we're gene was going with that

2595
01:51:50,180 --> 01:51:46,800
question when I contacted Linda how to

2596
01:51:52,669 --> 01:51:50,190
get her involvement to get her to agree

2597
01:51:56,810 --> 01:51:52,679
to do an interview for the book that

2598
01:51:59,060 --> 01:51:56,820
title will not be mentioned again she's

2599
01:52:01,580 --> 01:51:59,070
talking the heard stalking the heard

2600
01:52:07,399 --> 01:52:01,590
stalking - heard stalking the heard

2601
01:52:08,899 --> 01:52:07,409
stalking heard stuff I you know I she

2602
01:52:10,700 --> 01:52:08,909
started saying well are you coming down

2603
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:10,710
on the side that this is all et and

2604
01:52:15,979 --> 01:52:13,530
said well I'm looking at all possible

2605
01:52:17,180 --> 01:52:15,989
explanations and she accused me of money

2606
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:17,190
in the water she didn't want to be

2607
01:52:19,490 --> 01:52:18,480
involved in anything that was gonna

2608
01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:19,500
muddy the waters

2609
01:52:22,970 --> 01:52:21,090
I said well Linda what about all those

2610
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:22,980
hundreds and hundreds of helicopter

2611
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:25,040
sightings around these these animal uh

2612
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:27,570
unexplained animal death sites and she

2613
01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:30,330
said oh those are just UFOs masquerading

2614
01:52:35,870 --> 01:52:33,450
as helicopters sure they are yeah

2615
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:35,880
Mirage Minh you know it's interesting

2616
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:37,440
that you mentioned that synchronicity

2617
01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:40,730
again I got an email from the producers

2618
01:52:46,220 --> 01:52:42,960
suggesting that if we would have a link

2619
01:52:47,990 --> 01:52:46,230
to this YouTube version of the movie we

2620
01:52:49,850 --> 01:52:48,000
get a piece of the action for everyone

2621
01:52:52,100 --> 01:52:49,860
who buys one there's a pretty good scene

2622
01:52:53,990 --> 01:52:52,110
in there of Linda Moulton Howe freaking

2623
01:52:57,650 --> 01:52:54,000
out about what they're where they were

2624
01:52:58,700 --> 01:52:57,660
going with their documentary Oh whew

2625
01:53:01,310 --> 01:52:58,710
that would be worth the price of

2626
01:53:02,810 --> 01:53:01,320
admission we might recommend the movie

2627
01:53:04,130 --> 01:53:02,820
then I'll try to work out a deal with

2628
01:53:05,810 --> 01:53:04,140
the producer well it's it's the first

2629
01:53:07,570 --> 01:53:05,820
time Richard Doty has ever agreed to be

2630
01:53:12,170 --> 01:53:07,580
on camera to my knowledge he has quite a

2631
01:53:16,990 --> 01:53:12,180
visible role in this film ah Masters of

2632
01:53:19,700 --> 01:53:17,000
disinformation already interesting yeah

2633
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:19,710
why not get one of the chief Mirage

2634
01:53:23,180 --> 01:53:22,170
makers I think yeah I think you have a

2635
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:23,190
really good point actually

2636
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:25,890
in terms of mirages and and what a

2637
01:53:30,770 --> 01:53:27,690
person could be looking at there is such

2638
01:53:32,690 --> 01:53:30,780
a thing as active camouflage Rezo you

2639
01:53:35,420 --> 01:53:32,700
know literally perhaps we are seeing

2640
01:53:38,030 --> 01:53:35,430
something else than what the aliens

2641
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:38,040
intended for us to see that is entirely

2642
01:53:42,470 --> 01:53:40,650
possible if we're already working on it

2643
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:42,480
ourselves I don't see why some alien

2644
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:44,130
technology couldn't give that much more

2645
01:53:48,410 --> 01:53:46,290
advanced and have perfected it

2646
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:48,420
yeah why light it up like the Christmas

2647
01:53:52,130 --> 01:53:49,920
tree and send and sailing over they

2648
01:53:54,410 --> 01:53:52,140
don't have to do that yeah you get the

2649
01:53:56,690 --> 01:53:54,420
impression here with UFOs a lot of these

2650
01:54:00,290 --> 01:53:56,700
sometimes a lot of theaters sometimes

2651
01:54:03,170 --> 01:54:00,300
what we see is staged for our benefit

2652
01:54:05,450 --> 01:54:03,180
damn that's another point that makes us

2653
01:54:06,979 --> 01:54:05,460
so interesting they do light up but then

2654
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:06,989
there's other cases there's one in

2655
01:54:10,790 --> 01:54:09,330
Alaska where they had persistent radar

2656
01:54:12,440 --> 01:54:10,800
contacts but it was so dark they

2657
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:12,450
couldn't see anything there was no

2658
01:54:16,820 --> 01:54:14,489
business no visual confirmation but they

2659
01:54:19,250 --> 01:54:16,830
knew something was there so they don't

2660
01:54:21,410 --> 01:54:19,260
always do it but they can do it yeah I

2661
01:54:24,500 --> 01:54:21,420
had a really good multiple witness

2662
01:54:27,860 --> 01:54:24,510
sighting on a new moon night

2663
01:54:31,460 --> 01:54:27,870
at above 7000 feet so you know the air

2664
01:54:34,610 --> 01:54:31,470
is very was very dry and extremely clear

2665
01:54:36,830 --> 01:54:34,620
very very low humidity and the Milky Way

2666
01:54:39,860 --> 01:54:36,840
in the San Luis Valley you can see it

2667
01:54:42,260 --> 01:54:39,870
from Horizon to Horizon literally and uh

2668
01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:42,270
they were all outside sky watching and

2669
01:54:47,390 --> 01:54:45,330
this huge they couldn't really decide

2670
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:47,400
whether it was rounded at the front but

2671
01:54:52,130 --> 01:54:49,770
it seemed to be a triangular shaped but

2672
01:54:55,250 --> 01:54:52,140
possibly with a rounded front that

2673
01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:55,260
blocked out many degrees of the sky and

2674
01:54:59,810 --> 01:54:57,330
they could see the outline of it because

2675
01:55:01,660 --> 01:54:59,820
of how vivid you know the the skies and

2676
01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:01,670
in the Milky Way are at that altitude

2677
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:04,290
and very very impressed and there was

2678
01:55:08,210 --> 01:55:05,610
not a single light to be seen

2679
01:55:10,610 --> 01:55:08,220
yeah but the mothership reports I mean

2680
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:10,620
are they giant clouds are giant blimps

2681
01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:12,450
there are some very large blanks out

2682
01:55:17,510 --> 01:55:14,730
there that are very quiet I suppose

2683
01:55:19,820 --> 01:55:17,520
maybe something like that could be an

2684
01:55:21,710 --> 01:55:19,830
explanation I think we do need to think

2685
01:55:24,020 --> 01:55:21,720
of those kinds of explanations but then

2686
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:24,030
what do you do when somebody sees one of

2687
01:55:30,140 --> 01:55:28,410
those during a period when it's got some

2688
01:55:32,570 --> 01:55:30,150
lights on it and then it suddenly takes

2689
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:32,580
off at a 90 degree angle at an instant

2690
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:35,370
acceleration and is gone within a second

2691
01:55:41,540 --> 01:55:37,770
or two well then you know you don't get

2692
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:41,550
blintz to do that I know or clouds or

2693
01:55:45,140 --> 01:55:43,650
clouds or any or airplanes or anything

2694
01:55:47,450 --> 01:55:45,150
that I can think of that we know how to

2695
01:55:52,190 --> 01:55:47,460
make and yet I've also seen our

2696
01:55:55,700 --> 01:55:52,200
government trot out three you know c-130

2697
01:55:58,790 --> 01:55:55,710
e1 cargo planes wingtip to wingtip and

2698
01:56:00,560 --> 01:55:58,800
have a sequencing white light that went

2699
01:56:03,050 --> 01:56:00,570
down the leading edge of all three

2700
01:56:06,050 --> 01:56:03,060
planes in perfect synchronicity there's

2701
01:56:08,750 --> 01:56:06,060
a synchronized fashion so that it looked

2702
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:08,760
like it was going all the way down what

2703
01:56:15,230 --> 01:56:13,410
appeared to be a 300-foot single shape

2704
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:15,240
even though it was sweet different

2705
01:56:19,070 --> 01:56:17,130
planes I was about five miles away and I

2706
01:56:21,050 --> 01:56:19,080
could hear the engines I stopped the car

2707
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:21,060
I got my binoculars I looked at it and

2708
01:56:24,950 --> 01:56:22,770
there were three planes flying in

2709
01:56:26,690 --> 01:56:24,960
formation wingtip to wingtip but this

2710
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:26,700
light was sequencing all the way down

2711
01:56:30,170 --> 01:56:28,890
all leading edges of all the wings to

2712
01:56:33,590 --> 01:56:30,180
make it look like it was something to

2713
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:33,600
inner feet across so you know why would

2714
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:35,930
they do that that really interesting

2715
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:37,199
yeah

2716
01:56:43,250 --> 01:56:40,290
my own eyes I'm sort of flying exercise

2717
01:56:45,169 --> 01:56:43,260
of some kind I mean the military people

2718
01:56:47,030 --> 01:56:45,179
have all kinds of them that they do so

2719
01:56:49,010 --> 01:56:47,040
well I think they were trying to see if

2720
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:49,020
people would report it as a UFO because

2721
01:56:55,070 --> 01:56:50,250
if we were right in the middle of a UFO

2722
01:56:56,750 --> 01:56:55,080
flap at that time possibly maybe yeah we

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01:56:59,270 --> 01:56:56,760
never know but it beyond them to do some

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01:57:01,430 --> 01:56:59,280
disinformation it's like what some of

2725
01:57:04,310 --> 01:57:01,440
that went on with the Phoenix light yeah

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yeah exactly I called up the the head of

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the Air National Guard Colorado Air

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National Guard with at that point I was

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on a first-name basis with and he denied

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that it was them and he said Chris if I

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02:02:07,439 --> 02:02:04,360
shortly before it came on so we didn't

2830
02:02:09,419 --> 02:02:07,449
get questions from listeners but those

2831
02:02:12,270 --> 02:02:09,429
of you who've checked the forums there

2832
02:02:14,310 --> 02:02:12,280
is a posting there from techno-magic I

2833
02:02:17,669 --> 02:02:14,320
don't know how many of you have seen

2834
02:02:20,310 --> 02:02:17,679
that yet Chris uh I'll go take a look

2835
02:02:25,319 --> 02:02:20,320
right now it's about something involving

2836
02:02:27,989 --> 02:02:25,329
I guess clowns very strange Chris wants

2837
02:02:31,410 --> 02:02:27,999
you to take a look and maybe see if you

2838
02:02:34,850 --> 02:02:31,420
wanted to summarize what's there cuz

2839
02:02:38,489 --> 02:02:34,860
it's kind of long and we'll see how our

2840
02:02:39,569 --> 02:02:38,499
guests might react to it okay yeah

2841
02:02:41,879 --> 02:02:39,579
you're gonna have to give me a minute I

2842
02:02:44,850 --> 02:02:41,889
got a fire bus Safari here alright he's

2843
02:02:46,770 --> 02:02:44,860
gonna be fired by Safari or fire up

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Safari and just to let everyone know

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Safari is the preferred web browser on

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the Mac platform so those of you who are

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Mac users know what I'm talking about

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it's also powers the browser on iOS for

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02:03:03,870 --> 02:03:00,610
the four hundred million people have

2850
02:03:06,060 --> 02:03:03,880
iPhones are still thinking about the the

2851
02:03:08,459 --> 02:03:06,070
Klingon encounter that chris mentioned

2852
02:03:10,379 --> 02:03:08,469
earlier that's a system this would go

2853
02:03:12,270 --> 02:03:10,389
out of the mind but you know it is

2854
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:12,280
interesting that the that there almost

2855
02:03:16,169 --> 02:03:14,050
seems to be some cross-pollination

2856
02:03:19,020 --> 02:03:16,179
between the science fiction and

2857
02:03:22,679 --> 02:03:19,030
entertainment field and and UFOs and you

2858
02:03:24,689 --> 02:03:22,689
know that some ideas seem to seem to to

2859
02:03:26,459 --> 02:03:24,699
be shared by them but in the in the

2860
02:03:29,189 --> 02:03:26,469
early days I hear that the science

2861
02:03:30,810 --> 02:03:29,199
fiction fans didn't like UFOs and some

2862
02:03:32,759 --> 02:03:30,820
science fiction authors work for

2863
02:03:35,250 --> 02:03:32,769
debunkers and that that's kind of a

2864
02:03:37,379 --> 02:03:35,260
strange idea to to work with well I know

2865
02:03:40,049 --> 02:03:37,389
that I was involved in both science

2866
02:03:40,949 --> 02:03:40,059
fiction and UFOs and never the twain

2867
02:03:44,219 --> 02:03:40,959
shall meet

2868
02:03:48,149 --> 02:03:44,229
it was a very difficult Association but

2869
02:03:50,370 --> 02:03:48,159
in saying that UFOs or UFO cases

2870
02:03:52,649 --> 02:03:50,380
sometimes seem to be influenced by

2871
02:03:55,439 --> 02:03:52,659
science fiction The Day the Earth Stood

2872
02:03:59,339 --> 02:03:55,449
Still influenced the whole generation of

2873
02:04:02,719 --> 02:03:59,349
UFO contact claims the tall handsome

2874
02:04:04,620 --> 02:04:02,729
alien being wearing the shiny uniform

2875
02:04:07,669 --> 02:04:04,630
like Michael Rennie

2876
02:04:12,060 --> 02:04:07,679
Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still

2877
02:04:14,490 --> 02:04:12,070
that's a classic for sure the sacred UFO

2878
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:14,500
seen in some fake photographs like those

2879
02:04:18,149 --> 02:04:16,810
from Howard manager hmm Chris did you

2880
02:04:20,910 --> 02:04:18,159
get a chance to take a look at that long

2881
02:04:23,459 --> 02:04:20,920
posting yeah boy I'm I'm I'm scratching

2882
02:04:27,450 --> 02:04:23,469
the body part to this one I'll get to

2883
02:04:33,959 --> 02:04:31,109
well techno mage T has a list of very

2884
02:04:37,500 --> 02:04:33,969
curious events that he had posted prior

2885
02:04:40,290 --> 02:04:37,510
to this but he's reposted them and and

2886
02:04:43,530 --> 02:04:40,300
he says that his wife has had a number

2887
02:04:44,060 --> 02:04:43,540
of very interesting experiences over her

2888
02:04:46,770 --> 02:04:44,070
lifetime

2889
02:04:49,470 --> 02:04:46,780
starting with what he calls the

2890
02:04:51,180 --> 02:04:49,480
disheveled sad clown this is something

2891
02:04:53,339 --> 02:04:51,190
that she experienced between the ages of

2892
02:04:55,950 --> 02:04:53,349
four and five she would see a rag

2893
02:04:57,689 --> 02:04:55,960
raggedly disheveled clown and ripped up

2894
02:05:00,149 --> 02:04:57,699
clown gear and street makeup every

2895
02:05:02,459 --> 02:05:00,159
single time a newscaster would say on TV

2896
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:02,469
we interrupt this broadcast to bring you

2897
02:05:06,839 --> 02:05:05,530
a special news bulletin the clown would

2898
02:05:09,060 --> 02:05:06,849
have an incredibly sad expression

2899
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:09,070
wouldn't move was positioned in the

2900
02:05:12,540 --> 02:05:11,170
other room about 20 feet away light

2901
02:05:14,490 --> 02:05:12,550
would shine on him making him quite

2902
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:14,500
visible she would feel his presence in

2903
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:16,090
several places throughout the house but

2904
02:05:19,200 --> 02:05:17,530
the times the announcement would

2905
02:05:21,330 --> 02:05:19,210
broadcast were the only time she would

2906
02:05:23,189 --> 02:05:21,340
see him she insists that this was no

2907
02:05:25,950 --> 02:05:23,199
dream a product of childhood imagination

2908
02:05:27,569 --> 02:05:25,960
but very real various violent things

2909
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:27,579
happened in and around the house and her

2910
02:05:34,439 --> 02:05:30,730
parents finally sold it well that is a

2911
02:05:35,700 --> 02:05:34,449
pretty interesting I wouldn't know where

2912
02:05:37,770 --> 02:05:35,710
to start with that one it sounds very

2913
02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:37,780
tricks Trisha of course clowns are a

2914
02:05:43,950 --> 02:05:41,170
modern development in a modern sort of

2915
02:05:46,830 --> 02:05:43,960
cultural version of in the west of the

2916
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:46,840
trickster so it sounds very trickster

2917
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:49,810
ish just you know on the surface but

2918
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:51,730
that whole thing about we interrupt this

2919
02:05:54,319 --> 02:05:53,530
program to bring you a special news

2920
02:05:56,760 --> 02:05:54,329
bulletin

2921
02:05:59,459 --> 02:05:56,770
I'm not sure what to make of this

2922
02:06:02,160 --> 02:05:59,469
anybody have any thoughts on that one

2923
02:06:05,490 --> 02:06:02,170
that's it sounds like that in the

2924
02:06:08,580 --> 02:06:05,500
violence some kind of trigger almost

2925
02:06:10,379 --> 02:06:08,590
that wasn't it and that may be one of

2926
02:06:12,959 --> 02:06:10,389
our family members have something that

2927
02:06:15,450 --> 02:06:12,969
she called called night terrors and

2928
02:06:17,910 --> 02:06:15,460
where she wakes up and she can see even

2929
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:17,920
for some minutes that the dream images

2930
02:06:22,859 --> 02:06:20,050
that she feels are very real and maybe

2931
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:22,869
what we're seeing here is that when you

2932
02:06:27,750 --> 02:06:25,810
watch a television there's a certain

2933
02:06:29,850 --> 02:06:27,760
frequency that actually causes your

2934
02:06:33,780 --> 02:06:29,860
brain to go into a similar kind of

2935
02:06:36,180 --> 02:06:33,790
television watching quasi unconscious

2936
02:06:38,310 --> 02:06:36,190
mode that might maybe bring forth some

2937
02:06:42,330 --> 02:06:38,320
of these images from your subconscious

2938
02:06:44,370 --> 02:06:42,340
in right up upfront and that's about the

2939
02:06:46,770 --> 02:06:44,380
closest I can think of to something that

2940
02:06:48,570 --> 02:06:46,780
could explain it psychologically yeah

2941
02:06:51,090 --> 02:06:48,580
maybe it's like flashing red lights to

2942
02:06:52,740 --> 02:06:51,100
an epileptic or something maybe that

2943
02:06:56,880 --> 02:06:52,750
special news bulletin

2944
02:06:59,640 --> 02:06:56,890
tone or something they've actually done

2945
02:07:01,500 --> 02:06:59,650
some experiments where they have people

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02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:01,510
up to Ege Ege wires and then they

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02:07:04,860 --> 02:07:03,130
measure their brain waves while they're

2948
02:07:08,010 --> 02:07:04,870
sleeping dreaming and so on and watching

2949
02:07:10,950 --> 02:07:08,020
TV and when you turn on a TV a number of

2950
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:10,960
them line up almost perfectly and so

2951
02:07:16,350 --> 02:07:13,090
what could be happening is when this

2952
02:07:18,270 --> 02:07:16,360
particular trigger comes on that these

2953
02:07:23,310 --> 02:07:18,280
brain waves just line up and out comes

2954
02:07:25,530 --> 02:07:23,320
this this subconscious imaginary figure

2955
02:07:28,490 --> 02:07:25,540
that seems perfectly real but it isn't

2956
02:07:32,570 --> 02:07:28,500
yeah that's that's pretty interesting

2957
02:07:35,780 --> 02:07:32,580
of course clowns do crop up in

2958
02:07:38,700 --> 02:07:35,790
paranormal cases from time to time and

2959
02:07:42,210 --> 02:07:38,710
the clown image is a very very old

2960
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:42,220
ancient archetypal image as I mentioned

2961
02:07:48,150 --> 02:07:44,890
prior that goes back to the trickster

2962
02:07:49,980 --> 02:07:48,160
generally it's it's neither good nor bad

2963
02:07:51,900 --> 02:07:49,990
or positive or negative the fact that

2964
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:51,910
the clown had an incredibly sad

2965
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:54,850
expression may be some sort of

2966
02:08:00,180 --> 02:07:57,010
indication maybe it was uh who was the

2967
02:08:02,940 --> 02:08:00,190
famous browning clown Clarence Kelly

2968
02:08:04,590 --> 02:08:02,950
what was his name something Nelly Jean

2969
02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:04,600
would probably know that one Emmett

2970
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:08,890
Kelly yeah Emma Kelly that's right not

2971
02:08:14,220 --> 02:08:11,170
Clarabel the clown Emma Kelly

2972
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:14,230
Emma Kelly yeah well you know again I'm

2973
02:08:18,690 --> 02:08:16,210
not really sure what to what to make of

2974
02:08:21,810 --> 02:08:18,700
that particular story let's go on to the

2975
02:08:24,060 --> 02:08:21,820
next one this is us over a former

2976
02:08:25,950 --> 02:08:24,070
stomping ground of mine I lived in the

2977
02:08:28,890 --> 02:08:25,960
Bronx when I was going to college for a

2978
02:08:30,390 --> 02:08:28,900
couple years she was sitting on on her

2979
02:08:33,750 --> 02:08:30,400
bed with a friend when they both saw

2980
02:08:35,430 --> 02:08:33,760
this large silent disc hovering over and

2981
02:08:37,140 --> 02:08:35,440
covering the entire roof of the Bronx

2982
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:37,150
County Courthouse in New York City now I

2983
02:08:39,770 --> 02:08:38,890
know that building it's a it's a very

2984
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large building

2985
02:08:45,140 --> 02:08:42,119
a lot of crime in the Bronx so they need

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a large courthouse neohart police

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station

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you know before debauchee she described

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02:08:52,129 --> 02:08:50,670
it as huge with many multicolored lights

2990
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:52,139
it hovered for a few seconds and

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vanished and this was before Close

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02:08:58,549 --> 02:08:55,829
Encounters of the Third Kind so she

2993
02:09:02,359 --> 02:08:58,559
wasn't influenced by that film well you

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know sightings in New Yorker are fairly

2995
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rare but they they have been reported of

2996
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course the most famous being John Lennon

2997
02:09:13,939 --> 02:09:10,320
and may pay up in the on the I think

2998
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first Avenue down in the 50s I think in

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Manhattan where he was naked standing on

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his rooftop in this huge a fairly large

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object came and kind of did a little

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display for him before taking off there

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were half a dozen other sighting reports

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of apparently the same object you would

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think with 12 million people in the New

3006
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York City metropolitan area that if

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there were UFOs flying around somebody

3008
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would be looking up although if you live

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in Manhattan it's hard to see the sky in

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some parts of the city uh it's all of

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course obscured by glass steel and

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concrete most people in New York by the

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way tend to look down or straight ahead

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they're not really if you look up you're

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tourists in you're fair game that's

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right they see you do that of course

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they'll follow you around and yeah they

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will tell you what's going on but John

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Lennon mentioned this in the song nobody

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told me where lyric everybody's flying

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and never touch the sky there's a UFO

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over New York and I ain't too surprised

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learn from them like we have a hundred

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ninety thousand or some odd messages in

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our forums and I only wrote a few

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thousand of them Chris only wrote a few

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thousand of them ufology wrote how many

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messages

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oh god I'm up to four thousand something

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yeah there's some threads boy that you

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dive on time I wouldn't touch with a

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ten-foot pole I'll tell you in the pole

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wouldn't either

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only about half of them are liked though

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so I guess I'm like some people agree

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and some people don't

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yeah well your than everybody agree

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you're very passionate and you do a good

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job of you know defending or promoting

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or explaining your particular point of

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view on a subject and all of you guys do

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actually and and that's what's great

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about the forum at that forum dr. Peric

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ascom I you know I'm a pretty bright guy

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but boy I'll tell you there's some

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really smart people on there and every

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day if I spend it just a little bit of

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time I'm gonna learn something and

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that's that keeps me coming back and I

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think keeps the whole thing fresh for me

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and I think for a lot of people that

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lurk at the forum and maybe at times are

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to intimidate it's even get involved but

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it's also a place where guests of the

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show from time to time are willing to

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get involved and continue the discussion

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on the forums from points have raised on

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the show and David Perkins who was a

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visitor here on the show a couple of

3177
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:52,559
weeks back is now getting involved in

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02:16:55,339 --> 02:16:53,130
answering

3179
02:16:57,530 --> 02:16:55,349
questions on there and of course we had

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Matthew Williams the crop circle maker

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from England posted several hundred

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times

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rosemary guiley has graced this with

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some of her further insights so it is a

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great place to get up to speed to really

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know a nice equal exchange with people

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that are really up to speed and do do

3189
02:17:21,349 --> 02:17:18,659
the research do the reading read the

3190
02:17:23,599 --> 02:17:21,359
books keep up on the subjects that we

3191
02:17:27,500 --> 02:17:23,609
cover here we have a question by the way

3192
02:17:28,700 --> 02:17:27,510
from nameless just posted yep I see it

3193
02:17:30,919 --> 02:17:28,710
for the record

3194
02:17:33,049 --> 02:17:30,929
what are the weird experiences people

3195
02:17:35,240 --> 02:17:33,059
have had I'm also interested in whether

3196
02:17:38,149 --> 02:17:35,250
people place these personal experiences

3197
02:17:40,910 --> 02:17:38,159
in the same drawer altogether or do they

3198
02:17:43,790 --> 02:17:40,920
make distinctions should we be clear and

3199
02:17:45,859 --> 02:17:43,800
definite about this in the paranormal

3200
02:17:47,559 --> 02:17:45,869
world UFOs are one thing

3201
02:17:51,080 --> 02:17:47,569
Bigfoot didn't crypto is another

3202
02:17:52,849 --> 02:17:51,090
telepathic messages ghost one thing what

3203
02:17:55,399 --> 02:17:52,859
about the cases that combine these

3204
02:17:58,009 --> 02:17:55,409
events well earlier Howard mentioned

3205
02:18:00,709 --> 02:17:58,019
some experiences he had have I you

3206
02:18:02,599 --> 02:18:00,719
Randall well I've had a number of them

3207
02:18:05,809 --> 02:18:02,609
actually over the years that's why

3208
02:18:07,969 --> 02:18:05,819
despite my skepticism on the forum I do

3209
02:18:10,309 --> 02:18:07,979
believe that strange things happen I

3210
02:18:12,620 --> 02:18:10,319
when I hear somebody say that something

3211
02:18:15,559 --> 02:18:12,630
odd happened to them I don't dismiss it

3212
02:18:18,709 --> 02:18:15,569
out of hand I might come up with another

3213
02:18:22,009 --> 02:18:18,719
explanation but you know I've seen a UFO

3214
02:18:23,570 --> 02:18:22,019
a tad missing time I thought that maybe

3215
02:18:25,910 --> 02:18:23,580
I went through something they call one

3216
02:18:27,379 --> 02:18:25,920
of those dimensional portals law out in

3217
02:18:29,780 --> 02:18:27,389
the forest with some friends of mine

3218
02:18:31,820 --> 02:18:29,790
it's just I've had a lot of really

3219
02:18:32,839 --> 02:18:31,830
strange experiences over the years now

3220
02:18:35,959 --> 02:18:32,849
when you went through a dimensional

3221
02:18:39,559 --> 02:18:35,969
portal it wasn't from Storybrooke to the

3222
02:18:42,259 --> 02:18:39,569
enchanted forest thing like that no but

3223
02:18:44,929 --> 02:18:42,269
it was pretty dramatic in its own way

3224
02:18:47,179 --> 02:18:44,939
there was three of us at the time and I

3225
02:18:49,459 --> 02:18:47,189
don't know if anyone you know people

3226
02:18:51,769 --> 02:18:49,469
want me to go into that but yeah I was

3227
02:18:54,769 --> 02:18:51,779
just asking where exactly was this was

3228
02:18:56,059 --> 02:18:54,779
this in the Rockies or yeah on the open

3229
02:18:57,469 --> 02:18:56,069
lake windermere if you know where that

3230
02:18:59,149 --> 02:18:57,479
is and then I just like a mountain

3231
02:19:01,490 --> 02:18:59,159
trench another one of those mysterious

3232
02:19:03,379 --> 02:19:01,500
valley type situations right all kinds

3233
02:19:05,689 --> 02:19:03,389
of stuff goes on a beautiful area to him

3234
02:19:06,940 --> 02:19:05,699
I'd add yeah that's where I saw the UFO

3235
02:19:10,700 --> 02:19:06,950
that's where it became

3236
02:19:12,560 --> 02:19:10,710
personally 100% believer from firsthand

3237
02:19:14,270 --> 02:19:12,570
experience that they're here the one I

3238
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:14,280
talked about less is this sort of

3239
02:19:18,980 --> 02:19:16,290
dimensional portal rift thing that

3240
02:19:22,250 --> 02:19:18,990
myself and two of my buddies seem to go

3241
02:19:24,710 --> 02:19:22,260
through just completely by accident it

3242
02:19:26,630 --> 02:19:24,720
was a really bizarre experience and

3243
02:19:28,581 --> 02:19:26,640
that's where one of the missing time

3244
02:19:31,041 --> 02:19:28,591
things came into play with three of us

3245
02:19:32,570 --> 02:19:31,051
and I don't talk about it much in fact

3246
02:19:35,331 --> 02:19:32,580
this is the first time I've really

3247
02:19:37,850 --> 02:19:35,341
talked about her at all publicly tell us

3248
02:19:39,770 --> 02:19:37,860
more about the missing time well we were

3249
02:19:41,780 --> 02:19:39,780
out camping we were just into early

3250
02:19:43,160 --> 02:19:41,790
teens and we decided to go camping three

3251
02:19:45,050 --> 02:19:43,170
of us and do a little fishing up a

3252
02:19:47,630 --> 02:19:45,060
little creek on the left-hand side of

3253
02:19:49,251 --> 02:19:47,640
the lake and so we walked up and pitched

3254
02:19:50,541 --> 02:19:49,261
our tent and camped out for the night

3255
02:19:52,310 --> 02:19:50,551
and then got up in the morning and

3256
02:19:55,251 --> 02:19:52,320
decided to do a little bit of hiking bit

3257
02:19:58,220 --> 02:19:55,261
of exploring so we followed this trail

3258
02:20:01,820 --> 02:19:58,230
an animal trail up and over arised that

3259
02:20:04,940 --> 02:20:01,830
wasn't too far maybe 100 yards and it

3260
02:20:06,440 --> 02:20:04,950
passed underneath a a large burnt tree

3261
02:20:08,480 --> 02:20:06,450
that it looked like it had been hit by

3262
02:20:10,490 --> 02:20:08,490
lightning it was completely black it was

3263
02:20:12,980 --> 02:20:10,500
like something you'd see in a Stephen

3264
02:20:15,921 --> 02:20:12,990
King book and and there was a branch

3265
02:20:18,711 --> 02:20:15,931
that overhung the pathway and as we

3266
02:20:20,600 --> 02:20:18,721
walked underneath this branch all three

3267
02:20:23,570 --> 02:20:20,610
of us at the same time we're overcome

3268
02:20:25,700 --> 02:20:23,580
with this vibration energy thing that I

3269
02:20:27,740 --> 02:20:25,710
would allude to before about to knock

3270
02:20:30,801 --> 02:20:27,750
we're all all of a sudden we were just

3271
02:20:33,381 --> 02:20:30,811
what was that we looked around and

3272
02:20:35,600 --> 02:20:33,391
everything seemed to be just slightly

3273
02:20:38,240 --> 02:20:35,610
changed but in a way that you just

3274
02:20:41,270 --> 02:20:38,250
couldn't explain for example there was

3275
02:20:43,041 --> 02:20:41,280
where it had just been a some shrubs and

3276
02:20:44,900 --> 02:20:43,051
bushes off to the side suddenly there

3277
02:20:46,970 --> 02:20:44,910
were these old piles of lumber that had

3278
02:20:48,650 --> 02:20:46,980
been sitting there from a sawmill that

3279
02:20:51,291 --> 02:20:48,660
you could tell had been there at least

3280
02:20:52,881 --> 02:20:51,301
20 years with and I went over and looked

3281
02:20:54,410 --> 02:20:52,891
and there was things growing up from

3282
02:20:57,051 --> 02:20:54,420
around them and everything and they just

3283
02:20:59,480 --> 02:20:57,061
simply hadn't been there before Wow and

3284
02:21:01,490 --> 02:20:59,490
the sense that the light was a little

3285
02:21:03,110 --> 02:21:01,500
bit different the clouds were slightly

3286
02:21:04,881 --> 02:21:03,120
different I thought well that was just

3287
02:21:06,440 --> 02:21:04,891
really weird and we walked along a

3288
02:21:08,720 --> 02:21:06,450
little bit more and came to where this

3289
02:21:11,390 --> 02:21:08,730
old sawmill was hung around there for

3290
02:21:13,400 --> 02:21:11,400
what seemed like maybe 10 15 minutes and

3291
02:21:15,621 --> 02:21:13,410
then decided to hike back to the tent

3292
02:21:17,810 --> 02:21:15,631
well by the time we got back we'd woke

3293
02:21:20,690 --> 02:21:17,820
up early because we were outside it's

3294
02:21:22,761 --> 02:21:20,700
kind of bit chilly we set out about

3295
02:21:24,801 --> 02:21:22,771
in the morning and when we got back it

3296
02:21:28,820 --> 02:21:24,811
was 4:00 in the afternoon this couldn't

3297
02:21:31,430 --> 02:21:28,830
have been more than 400 yard total Wow

3298
02:21:33,620 --> 02:21:31,440
that's very interesting yeah this and I

3299
02:21:36,020 --> 02:21:33,630
often want to go back to this place to

3300
02:21:37,700 --> 02:21:36,030
see if I can re-experience this thing

3301
02:21:39,860 --> 02:21:37,710
because it was like it we walked into a

3302
02:21:42,230 --> 02:21:39,870
parallel universe one that was just a

3303
02:21:44,780 --> 02:21:42,240
little bit different yeah maybe you came

3304
02:21:48,261 --> 02:21:44,790
back into an alternate reality and

3305
02:21:51,440 --> 02:21:48,271
Randall dit walked under the tree is now

3306
02:21:53,540 --> 02:21:51,450
married to Margaret Udo I don't know

3307
02:21:54,890 --> 02:21:53,550
it's rather bizarre to think about that

3308
02:21:56,540 --> 02:21:54,900
I mean that was an experience a

3309
02:21:58,370 --> 02:21:56,550
real-life experience with three people

3310
02:22:00,230 --> 02:21:58,380
that experience at all at the same time

3311
02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:00,240
install these things at the same time

3312
02:22:04,790 --> 02:22:02,730
have no explanation for it and just kind

3313
02:22:06,650 --> 02:22:04,800
of went on living probably a lot of

3314
02:22:07,850 --> 02:22:06,660
people have these kinds of experiences

3315
02:22:09,620 --> 02:22:07,860
and they just don't want to talk about

3316
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:09,630
them they're they're too fearful of

3317
02:22:12,950 --> 02:22:11,610
ridicule or whatever well do you think

3318
02:22:15,530 --> 02:22:12,960
at all that maybe you're an abductee

3319
02:22:18,020 --> 02:22:15,540
well you know I could say I have the

3320
02:22:20,030 --> 02:22:18,030
symptom but I don't claim to be an

3321
02:22:22,820 --> 02:22:20,040
abductee another time when I was a child

3322
02:22:25,700 --> 02:22:22,830
I walked out into a field that I played

3323
02:22:27,740 --> 02:22:25,710
in often disappeared for most of the day

3324
02:22:29,600 --> 02:22:27,750
my parents were getting really worried

3325
02:22:31,070 --> 02:22:29,610
wondering where I was I thought that

3326
02:22:33,020 --> 02:22:31,080
what I had done had gone down into a

3327
02:22:34,671 --> 02:22:33,030
little kind of depression into the

3328
02:22:36,080 --> 02:22:34,681
ground and kind of was watching the

3329
02:22:38,450 --> 02:22:36,090
clouds and pretending I was playing with

3330
02:22:40,400 --> 02:22:38,460
spaceman and when I got back up and

3331
02:22:42,620 --> 02:22:40,410
walked out of it I went back home and

3332
02:22:44,091 --> 02:22:42,630
did the whole day was gone now you could

3333
02:22:45,591 --> 02:22:44,101
say it was just something that a kid

3334
02:22:47,240 --> 02:22:45,601
went through but when I went back out

3335
02:22:49,131 --> 02:22:47,250
there I could never find this spot I

3336
02:22:51,261 --> 02:22:49,141
really liked it I wanted to repeat the

3337
02:22:54,650 --> 02:22:51,271
experience and what there was was one of

3338
02:22:57,171 --> 02:22:54,660
these classic big round burn circles in

3339
02:22:59,030 --> 02:22:57,181
the tall grass and I was small I could

3340
02:23:01,160 --> 02:22:59,040
that grass was something in some places

3341
02:23:02,750 --> 02:23:01,170
taller than I was so I kind of parted

3342
02:23:05,150 --> 02:23:02,760
the grass out into this place and here

3343
02:23:06,980 --> 02:23:05,160
was this big black burn circle I don't

3344
02:23:09,381 --> 02:23:06,990
know I'm just saying okay that's what I

3345
02:23:11,690 --> 02:23:09,391
remember yeah it sounds like you know

3346
02:23:14,180 --> 02:23:11,700
visited Magana yeah exactly it's

3347
02:23:15,921 --> 02:23:14,190
definitely along the lines of some of

3348
02:23:17,810 --> 02:23:15,931
the valet type stuff but I'm not

3349
02:23:19,730 --> 02:23:17,820
claiming I was abducted or whatever I

3350
02:23:22,131 --> 02:23:19,740
just remember this from when I was in my

3351
02:23:24,830 --> 02:23:22,141
childhood you didn't come back home with

3352
02:23:27,350 --> 02:23:24,840
a note written in Klingon pindy or sure

3353
02:23:29,091 --> 02:23:27,360
then no nothing like that on the way

3354
02:23:31,580 --> 02:23:29,101
through the grass though and I get

3355
02:23:33,500 --> 02:23:31,590
ridiculed for this all the time I did

3356
02:23:34,460 --> 02:23:33,510
see I encountered I was parting the

3357
02:23:35,719 --> 02:23:34,470
grass in front of

3358
02:23:37,729 --> 02:23:35,729
so I could see where I was going and

3359
02:23:41,540 --> 02:23:37,739
suddenly standing right in front of me

3360
02:23:44,300 --> 02:23:41,550
was this rabbit with the great big those

3361
02:23:46,519 --> 02:23:44,310
Albany eyes big black almond eyes

3362
02:23:49,279 --> 02:23:46,529
looking right at me and I swear it said

3363
02:23:51,979 --> 02:23:49,289
hello to and then it just kind of

3364
02:23:53,989 --> 02:23:51,989
wandered off through the grass and he

3365
02:23:55,609 --> 02:23:53,999
didn't say and what's up doc did he no

3366
02:24:00,050 --> 02:23:55,619
he didn't say I'm late I'm late I'm late

3367
02:24:03,279 --> 02:24:00,060
I said hello it said hello I was shocked

3368
02:24:06,319 --> 02:24:03,289
because I didn't know rabbits could talk

3369
02:24:08,449 --> 02:24:06,329
I didn't know any better I'll see what

3370
02:24:10,760 --> 02:24:08,459
we have to do this break otherwise we're

3371
02:24:15,019 --> 02:24:10,770
not gonna know what's gonna happen next

3372
02:24:16,729 --> 02:24:15,029
we have ufology sentry and ho jack we're

3373
02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:16,739
coming with gene and Kris our final

3374
02:24:27,710 --> 02:24:19,050
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3381
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3382
02:24:48,649 --> 02:24:46,380
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3383
02:24:51,290 --> 02:24:48,659
intense dreams about a beautiful woman

3384
02:24:54,019 --> 02:24:51,300
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3385
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3386
02:24:57,260 --> 02:24:55,170
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3387
02:24:59,750 --> 02:24:57,270
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3388
02:25:02,359 --> 02:24:59,760
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3389
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3481
02:29:00,529 --> 02:28:59,419
all right this is our final segment of

3482
02:29:02,809 --> 02:29:00,539
the week and by the way Chris we have

3483
02:29:04,639 --> 02:29:02,819
another question from nameless and the

3484
02:29:07,159 --> 02:29:04,649
forms you want to check it out yeah I'm

3485
02:29:10,479 --> 02:29:07,169
reading it okay we have Howard Jackson

3486
02:29:14,419 --> 02:29:10,489
Howe Jack Kurt Collins sentry and

3487
02:29:16,879 --> 02:29:14,429
Randall Murphy ufology Randall you got a

3488
02:29:20,419 --> 02:29:16,889
lot of stuff there going on yeah how do

3489
02:29:23,149 --> 02:29:20,429
you win this uh this incident in the the

3490
02:29:28,549 --> 02:29:23,159
field happen oh god I must have been

3491
02:29:31,219 --> 02:29:28,559
about six or seven so about 1965 okay so

3492
02:29:33,469 --> 02:29:31,229
you were old enough to be you know aware

3493
02:29:35,809 --> 02:29:33,479
and and discerning of your environment

3494
02:29:38,539 --> 02:29:35,819
you weren't young enough to not be able

3495
02:29:40,849 --> 02:29:38,549
to tell the difference between fantasy

3496
02:29:43,369 --> 02:29:40,859
daydreams that sort of thing it sounds

3497
02:29:45,469 --> 02:29:43,379
what never fell asleep at any time

3498
02:29:48,229 --> 02:29:45,479
during any of this just out exploring

3499
02:29:52,249 --> 02:29:48,239
like children do I came home with this

3500
02:29:54,079 --> 02:29:52,259
tale that some children bring home and

3501
02:29:56,509 --> 02:29:54,089
and you know I think a lot of children

3502
02:29:59,119 --> 02:29:56,519
get discredited and just told if they're

3503
02:30:00,679 --> 02:29:59,129
making things up when when really the

3504
02:30:02,599 --> 02:30:00,689
whether you want to call it the

3505
02:30:04,099 --> 02:30:02,609
trickster or whatever these forces are

3506
02:30:06,379 --> 02:30:04,109
whether it's aliens doing some

3507
02:30:08,329 --> 02:30:06,389
sociological study on it I don't know

3508
02:30:10,399 --> 02:30:08,339
but I think a lot of kids have these

3509
02:30:12,229 --> 02:30:10,409
experiences and they're they're just

3510
02:30:14,089 --> 02:30:12,239
told to ignore them because they're

3511
02:30:14,630 --> 02:30:14,099
they're not important well it's

3512
02:30:16,969 --> 02:30:14,640
interesting the

3513
02:30:18,500 --> 02:30:16,979
time frame is very reminiscent of my

3514
02:30:24,979 --> 02:30:18,510
experience when I was seven

3515
02:30:27,830 --> 02:30:24,989
in 1965 64 or 65 I'd have to go back and

3516
02:30:29,599 --> 02:30:27,840
check my notes on that but it was right

3517
02:30:32,090 --> 02:30:29,609
around that same time period where I had

3518
02:30:35,830 --> 02:30:32,100
a very up close and personal experience

3519
02:30:39,019 --> 02:30:35,840
with something more tangible in terms of

3520
02:30:41,960 --> 02:30:39,029
my being able to remember it I remember

3521
02:30:44,149 --> 02:30:41,970
it vividly and I think that that's a

3522
02:30:47,059 --> 02:30:44,159
really crucial age that six through

3523
02:30:49,040 --> 02:30:47,069
eight age where you still have the magic

3524
02:30:52,099 --> 02:30:49,050
of your childhood you're still open I

3525
02:30:54,769 --> 02:30:52,109
think to certain experiences that that

3526
02:30:57,920 --> 02:30:54,779
you become closed off from as you grow

3527
02:31:00,110 --> 02:30:57,930
older into your adolescence and teenage

3528
02:31:02,420 --> 02:31:00,120
and then adult years and I think that

3529
02:31:03,950 --> 02:31:02,430
this is a real magical time where

3530
02:31:06,080 --> 02:31:03,960
there's a lot of very interesting

3531
02:31:08,960 --> 02:31:06,090
stories I've heard over the years but

3532
02:31:11,990 --> 02:31:08,970
people in that sort of six seven eight

3533
02:31:15,679 --> 02:31:12,000
age group where they would have these

3534
02:31:18,979 --> 02:31:15,689
these inexplicable experiences that they

3535
02:31:21,170 --> 02:31:18,989
were convinced were real and of course

3536
02:31:23,479 --> 02:31:21,180
as you just mentioned you know the

3537
02:31:25,610 --> 02:31:23,489
family you know your folks and stuff

3538
02:31:29,420 --> 02:31:25,620
would say oh you're just hysterical or

3539
02:31:31,729 --> 02:31:29,430
you were dreaming or you they tend to be

3540
02:31:34,099 --> 02:31:31,739
it's very easy and quick for them to

3541
02:31:36,530 --> 02:31:34,109
dismiss any sort of claim of this sort

3542
02:31:39,620 --> 02:31:36,540
so so I believe me I know exactly what

3543
02:31:41,899 --> 02:31:39,630
I'm talking about in a in a slightly

3544
02:31:44,780 --> 02:31:41,909
different way but you know I think that

3545
02:31:47,660 --> 02:31:44,790
that's the magical age put it that way

3546
02:31:49,700 --> 02:31:47,670
so why have we covered everybody else's

3547
02:31:51,439 --> 02:31:49,710
weird experiences or shall we go on here

3548
02:31:54,320 --> 02:31:51,449
Jane what what do you want to do let's

3549
02:31:56,030 --> 02:31:54,330
see century well you know I had one in

3550
02:31:58,760 --> 02:31:56,040
it and strangely enough it's close to

3551
02:32:01,370 --> 02:31:58,770
the same age and in Thomas as the others

3552
02:32:04,040 --> 02:32:01,380
but finds a lot less dramatic I was I

3553
02:32:06,710 --> 02:32:04,050
was on the couch by myself a Saturday

3554
02:32:08,929 --> 02:32:06,720
morning watching cartoons and I I don't

3555
02:32:11,389 --> 02:32:08,939
say bean but AG like a ghostly figure

3556
02:32:14,660 --> 02:32:11,399
that was indistinct covered over the

3557
02:32:16,340 --> 02:32:14,670
couch and my reaction was to ignore it

3558
02:32:18,649 --> 02:32:16,350
and keep watching television and

3559
02:32:20,360 --> 02:32:18,659
eventually it went away well that's a

3560
02:32:22,540 --> 02:32:20,370
good way to deal with ghosts say things

3561
02:32:25,269 --> 02:32:22,550
out out of sight out of mind

3562
02:32:29,229 --> 02:32:25,279
and of course no one believes me but I

3563
02:32:31,779 --> 02:32:29,239
think I told the story to my parent I

3564
02:32:33,130 --> 02:32:31,789
wasn't my mother I told her that I'd go

3565
02:32:35,800 --> 02:32:33,140
to church with my sister and I said

3566
02:32:37,599 --> 02:32:35,810
during our Sunday school we they let us

3567
02:32:39,939 --> 02:32:37,609
jump on the trampoline and we pulled off

3568
02:32:41,950 --> 02:32:39,949
her pants and and you know at that part

3569
02:32:43,569 --> 02:32:41,960
about the pants she didn't even question

3570
02:32:45,399 --> 02:32:43,579
why there's a trampoline but you know

3571
02:32:47,319 --> 02:32:45,409
all of a sudden she was worried that

3572
02:32:50,380 --> 02:32:47,329
there you know something funny was going

3573
02:32:52,450 --> 02:32:50,390
on and I and you know I was really into

3574
02:32:54,429 --> 02:32:52,460
the telling the story and in her

3575
02:32:57,189 --> 02:32:54,439
reaction yes she became more interested

3576
02:33:00,279 --> 02:32:57,199
until she turned me over and spank me

3577
02:33:02,019 --> 02:33:00,289
for telling such a lie so I was getting

3578
02:33:04,599 --> 02:33:02,029
this horrible mixed message about not

3579
02:33:07,540 --> 02:33:04,609
being believed about the ghost story and

3580
02:33:09,309 --> 02:33:07,550
yet you know this lie at least until it

3581
02:33:12,729 --> 02:33:09,319
got too ridiculous was being swallowed

3582
02:33:14,950 --> 02:33:12,739
in its entirety oh that's awful that's

3583
02:33:17,319 --> 02:33:14,960
actually traumatic I think yeah that's

3584
02:33:19,870 --> 02:33:17,329
that's called negative reinforcement I

3585
02:33:26,290 --> 02:33:19,880
think that would be the clinical term

3586
02:33:28,240 --> 02:33:26,300
Wow no but you know nameless question

3587
02:33:29,859 --> 02:33:28,250
had some other elements in it and I

3588
02:33:31,330 --> 02:33:29,869
think he was talking about you can you

3589
02:33:33,279 --> 02:33:31,340
mention Bigfoot in these other things

3590
02:33:35,740 --> 02:33:33,289
and like whether than whether or not we

3591
02:33:37,719 --> 02:33:35,750
should lump these together or or

3592
02:33:39,729 --> 02:33:37,729
consider them separately I think a

3593
02:33:41,679 --> 02:33:39,739
mistake to do an absolute of either

3594
02:33:44,139 --> 02:33:41,689
because you know just like the bunny

3595
02:33:45,250 --> 02:33:44,149
showing up in the aliens tail sometimes

3596
02:33:47,290 --> 02:33:45,260
there are some weird things in

3597
02:33:49,269 --> 02:33:47,300
combination and you know if you just

3598
02:33:51,429 --> 02:33:49,279
dismissed either half of that story

3599
02:33:53,620 --> 02:33:51,439
you'd be missing something important and

3600
02:33:56,830 --> 02:33:53,630
you know there's there's just a lot of

3601
02:33:58,660 --> 02:33:56,840
it some of these things well there

3602
02:34:01,359 --> 02:33:58,670
there's some cross-pollination some of

3603
02:34:03,939 --> 02:34:01,369
these stories yeah this is why I asked

3604
02:34:06,729 --> 02:34:03,949
earlier whether when we see UFO we are

3605
02:34:09,010 --> 02:34:06,739
seeing the real event just as when you

3606
02:34:12,519 --> 02:34:09,020
see the rabbit was it really a rabbit or

3607
02:34:14,769 --> 02:34:12,529
something else but screen memories well

3608
02:34:16,269 --> 02:34:14,779
you know we have this discussion here

3609
02:34:18,929 --> 02:34:16,279
and I mentioned in one of our weekly

3610
02:34:22,479 --> 02:34:18,939
podcast newsletters where supposedly

3611
02:34:25,990 --> 02:34:22,489
those who are abductees will have screen

3612
02:34:28,779 --> 02:34:26,000
memories implanted by et to cover up

3613
02:34:31,510 --> 02:34:28,789
what really happened now a couple of the

3614
02:34:33,700 --> 02:34:31,520
theories here I had one is that if the

3615
02:34:36,099 --> 02:34:33,710
screen memory is so easily penetrated

3616
02:34:36,819 --> 02:34:36,109
which apparently it is the aliens aren't

3617
02:34:41,260 --> 02:34:36,829
very good

3618
02:34:44,229 --> 02:34:41,270
or the abduction experience itself is a

3619
02:34:45,460 --> 02:34:44,239
screen memory for something else what is

3620
02:34:48,729 --> 02:34:45,470
that something else I wouldn't pretend

3621
02:34:50,979 --> 02:34:48,739
to know but just think about it no yeah

3622
02:34:52,689 --> 02:34:50,989
it's entirely possible that something

3623
02:34:55,719 --> 02:34:52,699
like that's going on I mean obviously as

3624
02:34:59,109 --> 02:34:55,729
an adult looking back I don't think I

3625
02:35:01,119 --> 02:34:59,119
saw actually a talking rabbit like the

3626
02:35:03,939 --> 02:35:01,129
Easter Bunny or something like that I

3627
02:35:07,359 --> 02:35:03,949
just know that what I did see registered

3628
02:35:09,460 --> 02:35:07,369
in my brain in my memory as something

3629
02:35:12,069 --> 02:35:09,470
that was very much like a rabbit with

3630
02:35:13,960 --> 02:35:12,079
some it was kind of alien II black eyes

3631
02:35:17,699 --> 02:35:13,970
which I had no clue about back then and

3632
02:35:19,929 --> 02:35:17,709
that it somehow said hello to me and

3633
02:35:22,389 --> 02:35:19,939
obviously those things don't really

3634
02:35:31,179 --> 02:35:22,399
exist I don't believe in giant talking

3635
02:35:34,149 --> 02:35:31,189
rabbit you sound like you sound like

3636
02:35:37,630 --> 02:35:34,159
Jimmy Stewart in RV yeah well right no

3637
02:35:39,489 --> 02:35:37,640
and it's but you know how many other

3638
02:35:41,649 --> 02:35:39,499
experiences like that to young people

3639
02:35:43,929 --> 02:35:41,659
have what if there's an Bob ley case

3640
02:35:46,239 --> 02:35:43,939
there had been no teachers to also see

3641
02:35:47,710 --> 02:35:46,249
this thing happen or in the other there

3642
02:35:49,809 --> 02:35:47,720
was another case where there was some

3643
02:35:52,960 --> 02:35:49,819
school kids in Australia I believe I

3644
02:35:55,960 --> 02:35:52,970
mean this happens to everybody at all

3645
02:35:59,019 --> 02:35:55,970
ages and stages and maybe children are

3646
02:36:02,829 --> 02:35:59,029
sometimes singled out because they won't

3647
02:36:04,840 --> 02:36:02,839
be believed because society is known to

3648
02:36:07,179 --> 02:36:04,850
just dismiss what they have to say and

3649
02:36:10,630 --> 02:36:07,189
it's easier for whatever it is that

3650
02:36:11,679 --> 02:36:10,640
wants to do whatever they do to the

3651
02:36:13,869 --> 02:36:11,689
children when they're having these

3652
02:36:15,579 --> 02:36:13,879
experiences because nobody's going to

3653
02:36:16,960 --> 02:36:15,589
believe them in the first place and

3654
02:36:20,260 --> 02:36:16,970
maybe it's also true though that

3655
02:36:21,880 --> 02:36:20,270
children don't have filters so they

3656
02:36:24,340 --> 02:36:21,890
don't have the cultural filters they're

3657
02:36:27,219 --> 02:36:24,350
not ready yet so what they see may be

3658
02:36:30,130 --> 02:36:27,229
closer to the reality because they don't

3659
02:36:32,469 --> 02:36:30,140
have these side influences because

3660
02:36:35,349 --> 02:36:32,479
they're open to anything no yeah that

3661
02:36:37,719 --> 02:36:35,359
was my point before that it is a magic

3662
02:36:41,619 --> 02:36:37,729
age when you know reality and

3663
02:36:43,449 --> 02:36:41,629
imagination and the archetypal you know

3664
02:36:46,449 --> 02:36:43,459
the power of the art archetypes within

3665
02:36:49,590 --> 02:36:46,459
the subconscious or exist more on equal

3666
02:36:52,769 --> 02:36:49,600
footing and I think that this is a

3667
02:36:55,679 --> 02:36:52,779
ground for being aware of experiences

3668
02:36:58,290 --> 02:36:55,689
being aware of of subtle energies let's

3669
02:37:00,269 --> 02:36:58,300
say that you normally block out when you

3670
02:37:02,399 --> 02:37:00,279
get older and I think you know it's like

3671
02:37:04,439 --> 02:37:02,409
just the whole idea of time I mean when

3672
02:37:05,880 --> 02:37:04,449
I was a kid the summer lasted forever it

3673
02:37:08,880 --> 02:37:05,890
seemed like it was as long if not longer

3674
02:37:11,429 --> 02:37:08,890
than the school year now I blink and

3675
02:37:13,679 --> 02:37:11,439
summers gone I'll tell you what at my

3676
02:37:15,719 --> 02:37:13,689
age I blinken's ten years have passed

3677
02:37:16,319 --> 02:37:15,729
all right guys we're just about out of

3678
02:37:17,909 --> 02:37:16,329
time

3679
02:37:20,130 --> 02:37:17,919
this is a chance to promote yourself

3680
02:37:21,300 --> 02:37:20,140
power Jackson you have a website or

3681
02:37:23,819 --> 02:37:21,310
anything where we can learn more about

3682
02:37:26,489 --> 02:37:23,829
you I know I don't have my own website

3683
02:37:28,279 --> 02:37:26,499
and it's probably better that way but I

3684
02:37:30,569 --> 02:37:28,289
hope to announce some kind of a

3685
02:37:33,029 --> 02:37:30,579
Kickstarter for a documentary here soon

3686
02:37:35,519 --> 02:37:33,039
but I'll keep you updated yeah yeah it's

3687
02:37:38,550 --> 02:37:35,529
a great project - I've been told a

3688
02:37:42,689 --> 02:37:38,560
little bit about it okay Kurt Collins

3689
02:37:44,579 --> 02:37:42,699
you are running Jim Mosley calm and look

3690
02:37:47,250 --> 02:37:44,589
for some updates to that soon as some

3691
02:37:51,269 --> 02:37:47,260
more stories and photos become available

3692
02:37:52,319 --> 02:37:51,279
and my other side is blue boring lines

3693
02:37:54,989 --> 02:37:52,329
calm

3694
02:37:57,059 --> 02:37:54,999
just very quickly Randall tell our

3695
02:38:00,239 --> 02:37:57,069
listeners where your site's located at

3696
02:38:02,399 --> 02:38:00,249
UFO pages calm you can just type in

3697
02:38:04,349 --> 02:38:02,409
Google just type in ufology we're

3698
02:38:06,630 --> 02:38:04,359
usually right up near the top of the

3699
02:38:08,189 --> 02:38:06,640
page and we'll have to get some links

3700
02:38:10,619 --> 02:38:08,199
going there but it sounds are the two

3701
02:38:13,290 --> 02:38:10,629
between no we sure will be happy too

3702
02:38:17,040 --> 02:38:13,300
okay meantime you can find Chris O'Brien

3703
02:38:19,079 --> 02:38:17,050
at stalking the herd comm where you can

3704
02:38:22,019 --> 02:38:19,089
buy a copy and have it autographed by

3705
02:38:25,139 --> 02:38:22,029
Chris on Twitter we're known as the para

3706
02:38:27,869 --> 02:38:25,149
cast we are at the para cast on Twitter

3707
02:38:30,179 --> 02:38:27,879
we also have a couple of power cast fan

3708
02:38:32,219 --> 02:38:30,189
clubs on Facebook don't ask me to

3709
02:38:34,739 --> 02:38:32,229
explain how that happened check out our

3710
02:38:40,500 --> 02:38:34,749
forums that formed up our cast com

3711
02:38:42,599 --> 02:38:40,510
all right ufology century ho jack

3712
02:38:52,390 --> 02:38:42,609
thank you all for coming on the para

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the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

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and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

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presentation of making the impossible